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    Just watched Metro Sport, and in one segment, Icuk showed some sheet of papers with signatures of 25 heads of pengda-s, including DKI, in it.
    Apparently, supporting him in his attempt for PBSI head.

    He also claimed that the ban can be lifted by Munas, not necessarily by Bang Yos.

    Is that true? So, there goes the trump card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Just watched Metro Sport, and in one segment, Icuk showed some sheet of papers with signatures of 25 heads of pengda-s, including DKI, in it.
    Apparently, supporting him in his attempt for PBSI head.

    He also claimed that the ban can be lifted by Munas, not necessarily by Bang Yos.

    Is that true? So, there goes the trump card?
    Icuk forgot that he wrote a letter that said Icuk accepted this ban from PBSI... So it is very official and cannot be processed again. The criminal already claimed that he is guilty. No more trial possible [nor is it necessary]...

    Icuk likes to bluff... the 25 signatures were not all from the heads... Please do not assume that he is a man that honors his words...

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    Looked like he will change his reputation from "Trouble maker" for INA's badminton to be "Nightmare maker"
    Last edited by Sandy; 09-11-2008 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    Icuk forgot that he wrote a letter that said Icuk accepted this ban from PBSI... So it is very official and cannot be processed again. The criminal already claimed that he is guilty. No more trial possible [nor is it necessary]...

    Icuk likes to bluff... the 25 signatures were not all from the heads... Please do not assume that he is a man that honors his words...
    Yes, he had done it many times. Bluffing to Chairul Tanjung and also to Bang Yos about he got more that 20 pengda supports, and until now never proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssertere View Post
    Yes, he had done it many times. Bluffing to Chairul Tanjung and also to Bang Yos about he got more that 20 pengda supports, and until now never proven.
    But how come Pak Chairul got ousted, while Bang Yos not?

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    And there is something I can't understand till this very moment:

    Icuk is banned till this December. Since the Munas is held in November, virtually he can't participate.

    Yet, Icuk still stepped ahead and claimed support from 25 pengda-s, as if the ban was never there!

    Or, are they pretending they don't know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    But how come Pak Chairul got ousted, while Bang Yos not?
    Pak Chairul himself was ready to resign after the 2004 Thomas Cup loss... He was a gentleman... So, Pak Chairul didn't fight to hold on to his position when some people called for his resignation [for dismissing Pelatnas people before the appropriate timeline etc.] ... Bang Yos cannot be ousted because he didn't break any PBSI rule...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Yet, Icuk still stepped ahead and claimed support from 25 pengda-s, as if the ban was never there!
    Icuk learned from Holywood well... whatever scandal he had encountered, just move ahead with life without thinking too much about the concept of shame etc. And once again, the 25 Pengda-s that he mentioned were not all represented by the Heads, ok... Please don't believe what Icuk said... He does not have the backing of 25 Pengda heads.
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    so it is definite, yes?
    icuk will not be head of PBSI?

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    he has a chance or not???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansonlouphers View Post
    he has a chance or not???
    1% chance... in Indonesia anything can happen... rule-of-law is not our strongsuit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    There you go...

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    Just read the news above. Wow, 'hot' indeed.
    No reply from Icuk yet?

    "Yang kedua, Icuk dinilai membuat laporan palsu perihal permohonan pencabutan skors dirinya. Dalam surat yang disampaikan kepada PB PBSI, ada 24 pengprov PBSI yang meminta pencabutan skors Icuk Sugiarto."

    Mr. Krisna, I thought you said it can't be processed anymore?
    I dunno there's such mechanism to lift the ban...

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    Icuk should be banned for life.....period!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Just read the news above. Wow, 'hot' indeed.
    No reply from Icuk yet?

    "Yang kedua, Icuk dinilai membuat laporan palsu perihal permohonan pencabutan skors dirinya. Dalam surat yang disampaikan kepada PB PBSI, ada 24 pengprov PBSI yang meminta pencabutan skors Icuk Sugiarto."

    Mr. Krisna, I thought you said it can't be processed anymore?
    I dunno there's such mechanism to lift the ban...
    I wrote before that: there is only 1 way the ban can be lifted... the Head of PBSI is the only person able to lift it! 1% chance of that happening...

    Jagdpanther, why don't you read the PBSI AD/ART yourself to be sure... I re-read it quite a few times in the past few weeks. I am sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Icuk should be banned for life.....period!!
    In the same meeting, there are talks of banning Icuk for another 2 years because he unlawfully used the PBSI logo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    In the same meeting, there are talks of banning Icuk for another 2 years because he unlawfully used the PBSI logo...
    Read abt the news somewhere today....I think Icuk has 0 chance.

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    I got more calls by phone today by concerned former badminton athletes... Because they just saw Icuk on Metro TV this morning claiming that:
    1. he actually was banned only until September 9, 2008... [he intentionally forgot that he created havoc in November 2006 Munas and was banned a few weeks after that in December 2006, with a maximum ban of 2 years]
    Note: if he is not banned anymore today... then why the fuss of lifting his ban a few weeks ago?
    2. he defended himself that he used the PBSI logo because what other logo can he use to nominate himself as the PBSI head... [er... well... but he is officially banned from PBSI, so, he can't even nominate himself without the ban being lifted first! ]

    So... this is as if I, a non-citizen of USA, nominate myself as the President of USA... without being officially a US citizen first?!? I must be quite in$ane!
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    ..Mr. Sugiarto is soooo desperate to get himself a PBSI Chairman position, then might as well let him have it. Let him sit there and probably make a complete laughingstock of himself, just so everyone can see him...

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