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    It is good to have 1 coach and 1 assistant on each discipline...by having too many coaches, the players do not train together and less of unity in my opinion....the players have to obey/respect to the coaches that have been appointed..if they do not like the coach or follow their program...he or she is welcome to leave the national team...PBSI has to be "firm" ....last time, PBSI was too afraid of its own players...

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    I think PBSI has to make a stand now, they cant let Taufik run riot.

    The moment they decided not to included pak mulyo, they know taufil will start his tantrum.

    I think PBSI expect taufik to drop out

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    Its okay really if Taufik does decide to be independent. That will free up the space for other younger players with potential.

    I am surprised Fran Kurniawan/Shendy Puspa Irawati are not included in the first-stage Pelatnas, but Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita are in

    The other names that could probably be included:
    MS -- Tommy Sugiarto or Alamsyah Yunus, Andre Kurniawan Tedjono, Bandar Sigit Pamungkas or Andreas Adityawarman, Nugroho Andi Saputro or Ari Trisnanto (the player from Tangkas) (a total of 4)
    WS -- Febby Angguni, Maria Elfira Christina or Maria Febe Kusmastuti, Bellaetrix Manuputty (a total of 3)
    MD -- Rendra Wijaya/Joko Riyadi or Hendra A. Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto Chandra, Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie, Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan (a total of 6)
    WD -- Jo Novita/Rani Mundiasti, Debby Susanto/Richie Puspita Dili (a total of 4)
    XD -- Fran Kurniawan/Shendy Puspa Irawati, Tantowi Akhmad/Richie Puspita Dili (additional 2 more)

    Total addition: 19, with Taufik saying goodbye, the total number of players in Pelatnas would be 40...the ideal figure.
    Last edited by badMania; 01-03-2009 at 09:56 AM.

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    Forgot to add: second-stage call-up will be held after Korea SS.

    Buh-bye, Mr. Taufik. may the force be with you always.

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    Default Time to move on...and start the re-generation..

    Quote Originally Posted by CLELY View Post
    Taken from The Jakarta Post (03 January-09) :

    Taufik snubs PBSI call-up to camp
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    Badminton ace Taufik Hidayat has rejected a call-up to the national badminton training camp for 2009 in protest at the omission of his coach Mulyo Handoyo from the coaching lineup.
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    "From our evaluation, we consider Mulyo as having failed to discipline Taufik in terms of the training schedule. For instance, Taufik missed our physical tests in the last four years," he said, adding the excuses given were overused.
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    ..not a surprise, both for Taufik's excuse and of Mulyo's omission from the coaching staff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Taken from today's Kompas:

    List of 22 players called back into Pelatnas, 1st stage (call-up will be done in several stages):
    ...(players' names snipped for brevity)
    ..thanks for sharing the list..
    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    ...PBSI has to be "firm" ....last time, PBSI was too afraid of its own players...
    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Its okay really if Taufik does decide to be independent. That will free up the space for other younger players with potential.
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    ...it's about time, PBSI stand up & start the real re-generation process!..Now he can concentrate on his possible world tour and perhaps come to Toronto, this yr..

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    Taufik is too arrogant.. he has to see who he is now..
    he is former Champions, not Reigning champion.
    Maybe change the coach can give him more achievemant..

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    well,I guess
    taufik is truly an arrogant player
    and I think he needs to go out from pbsi and become independent player
    but still playing for INA..
    so if he doesnt win
    it's his problem, not really pbsi problems..
    hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by .ash. View Post
    well,I guess
    taufik is truly an arrogant player
    and I think he needs to go out from pbsi and become independent player
    but still playing for INA..
    so if he doesnt win
    it's his problem, not really pbsi problems..
    hehe..
    Just a small correction: you meant "...go out of the INA National Team... "
    Not PBSI... PBSI members includes: the INA National Team and the Independent Players representing themselves as an INA representatives...

    If Taufik is not playing for INA, then he is out PBSI... As long as he is playing for INA, then he is a member of PBSI...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    Just a small correction: you meant "...go out of the INA National Team... "
    Not PBSI... PBSI members includes: the INA National Team and the Independent Players representing themselves as an INA representatives...

    If Taufik is not playing for INA, then he is out PBSI... As long as he is playing for INA, then he is a member of PBSI...
    maybe taufik can out of pelatnas & become independent player. So he fund himself to go to a tournament or funded by the club.. Like djarum did for its players.

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    Do you think PBSI will let him leave for good this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    Just a small correction: you meant "...go out of the INA National Team... "
    Not PBSI... PBSI members includes: the INA National Team and the Independent Players representing themselves as an INA representatives...

    If Taufik is not playing for INA, then he is out PBSI... As long as he is playing for INA, then he is a member of PBSI...
    wow,thx for the correction krisna
    it's help me a lot.heheh

    well,just wish for the best to taufik

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Do you think PBSI will let him leave for good this time?
    All indicators say that this time the INA National Team will let Taufik go if he cannot follow the terms set... Taufik will still be a member of PBSI but not the INA National Team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    All indicators say that this time the INA National Team will let Taufik go if he cannot follow the terms set... Taufik will still be a member of PBSI but not the INA National Team...
    PBSI should be fair in this case, no more exclusivity for any player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    All indicators say that this time the INA National Team will let Taufik go if he cannot follow the terms set... Taufik will still be a member of PBSI but not the INA National Team...
    Even if he goes 'ngambek' and decides to play for, uh, Singapore (just like what he intended to do back then)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Even if he goes 'ngambek' and decides to play for, uh, Singapore (just like what he intended to do back then)?
    If that's the case, all I've to say is don't let the door hit you on your way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post

    WD:
    *Greysia Polii/Nitya Krishinda
    *Shendy Puspa Irawati/Meiliana Jauhari

    No Vita Marissa and Liliyana Natsir on the list??

    are they really want to focus in XD?

    this malaysia open will be their last performance???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansonlouphers View Post
    No Vita Marissa and Liliyana Natsir on the list??

    are they really want to focus in XD?

    this malaysia open will be their last performance???

    There is that possibility.... But I won't advise them to just play one discipline... More money if they play 2 disciplines... XD and WD...

    Anyway, with Vita and Lily already part of the National Team's XD, they may at anytime play together as part of the National Team's WD too...

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