Indonesia Badminton

**badMania** · 08-19-2009, 12:09 PM

Some personal comments from the opening matches of the Macau Open:
1. I think it's time for Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie to be split up. Edo needs to find a better partner to complement him.

2. Likewise, get Aprilia Yuswandari out of Pelatnas!

Some positive pts:
1. Fran Kurniawan/Pia Bernadet Zebadiah managed to stretch the All-England champion He Hanbin/Yu Yang to 3-sets. Good start for the new pairing! Keep this pair and they could rise up to top 20 for sure by next year!

2. Lindaweni Fanetri also pushed the top-seed Zhou Mi to 3-sets and could have won the match in straight-sets if luck went her way (at 19-19 in the second-set).

3. Although their opponents are not that strong, Annisa Wahyuni/Anneke Feinya Agustine continue to progress to R16 and will face Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen tomorrow. Another R16 performance next week will see their ranking go up to top 35. Not bad for a new pairing and they could rise up top 20 by mid-next year.

4. Hendra A. Gunawan/Vita Marissa look like a decent combo and after next week's TPE Open GP Gold, they should be ranked in the top 40, with only 6 tournaments. With more participations, they could also reach top 20 by next year.

5. No question about Hendra A. Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto Chandra as INA's no 2 pair at the moment. They still lack a little something to be considered the top 5 pair in the World. What they need is consistency at later rounds (beyond SF) and hopefully a title or two by end of this year.

**narnia** · 08-19-2009, 11:51 PM

IMHO,

Hendra Setiawan should play XD with Natsir and/or MD with Hendra Gunawan.

**badMania** · 08-19-2009, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by narnia

Hendra Setiawan should play XD with Natsir and/or MD with Hendra Gunawan.

FYI, there's no way for an INA MD player in the National Team to play in XD; unless he's really good enough to take on both duties well. The same goes for CHN top MD player in general. You will never see Fu Haifeng or Cai Yun playing XD. Besides, what Liliyana Natsir need is a hard-hitter, not a play maker.

Plus, Hendra A. Gunawan is not longer in the National Team and currently doing an okay job with Alvent Yulianto, ranked no 8 in the World in just under 8 mths of partnership.

**narnia** · 08-20-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by badMania

FYI, there's no way for an INA MD player in the National Team to play in XD; unless he's really good enough to take on both duties well. The same goes for CHN top MD player in general. You will never see Fu Haifeng or Cai Yun playing XD. Besides, what Liliyana Natsir need is a hard-hitter, not a play maker.

Plus, Hendra A. Gunawan is not longer in the National Team and currently doing an okay job with Alvent Yulianto, ranked no 8 in the World in just under 8 mths of partnership.

Thanks for your info.

Then, with whom will Setiawan play in the future? Still with Kido? (I see many INA men are all hard-hitter.)

Actually, as you know, LYD is not hard-hitter; I think his smashes are much weaker than Setiawan's. I think Setiawan can play well in XD. But yes, it would be hard for him to switch to XD if he has not played it from his junior ages.

**nick.h** · 08-20-2009, 12:50 AM

lol i like it!

if PBSI is to proceed with project 'RiBut', i think nova should stay a bit longer to partner debby (since she is now partner-less). This is so that nova could share his mount-load of experience with her and more importantly, so that debby could experience how it feels to play at a higher level which will be usefull in the future (if she is to partner someone her age). and of course if she does partner nova, we could see more of her

(which is the overall goal, cos i think she's cute

)
if fernando kurniawan/lingga lie are to be split up, i think fernando should partner rendy sugiarto....lets bring out the taletned juniors! or, lets start our vacuuming process!e.g. pair up HS with nando, and MK with LL...or scratch pairs with rian/yoke since they are very unproductive,might as well use 'em for part of regeneration...what do you guys think?

as for INA's XD with nova's departure, we wont be seeing another pair as great as nova/butet. lets face it, devin/lita pairing is not exactly what we call a 'world-class' pair...
IMO, rijal is getting old as well...is he younger than butet or is he "YOUNGER" than butet?

lol...long live INA baddy!

**alvisiny** · 08-20-2009, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by isaura

nova will end contract at the end of this year..before this butet said she will to stay with nova until AG 2010....she said that during press conference after final xd at chin master 2008 when reporters asked her about their partnership..But i don't know if currents situation will lead to another decision....Just can't wait for this new partnership..BUtet need some one like nova who can back up at the back and smash hard..i think ..

really ???
nova will end the contract

I think nova is a good badminton player
and he could become a good partner for lilyana
lilyana must get a new patner like nova
_LOL_

**isaura** · 08-20-2009, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by alvisiny

really ???
nova will end the contract

I think nova is a good badminton player
and he could become a good partner for lilyana
lilyana must get a new patner like nova
_LOL_

I'm not sure about the news.This is what i've read at an Indonesian forum..DOn't u read this forum ,Detik..I'm not indonesians but i browse this forum everyday just to know about BUtet news and her latest pics..hehe..You should go tehre.Here is the link.
http://forum.detik.com/showthread.php?t=43851&page=191

**Krisna** · 08-20-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by badMania

5. No question about Hendra A. Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto Chandra as INA's no 2 pair at the moment. They still lack a little something to be considered the top 5 pair in the World. What they need is consistency at later rounds (beyond SF) and hopefully a title or two by end of this year.

I think Bona-Ahsan are INA's de-facto number 2 pair...

**abesadi** · 08-20-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Krisna

I think Bona-Ahsan are INA's de-facto number 2 pair...

100% agree.. I think Alvent/Hendra never won againts Bona/Ahsan in their previous match before..

**badMania** · 08-20-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Krisna

I think Bona-Ahsan are INA's de-facto number 2 pair...

They might be overtaken in the rankings-table by the end of TPE Open next week

Anyway, AG/Alvent's problem has been inconsistency and that showed up in the Macau Open too.....

Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan's progress to the QF, beating the fourth-seed also marks a sign of progress. I hope they can beat the CHN pair today and reach their first GP-Gold SF. It's time for them to show that they can be counted on as INA's top MD pair

**ctjcad** · 08-20-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by badMania

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Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan's progress to the QF, beating the fourth-seed also marks a sign of progress. I hope they can beat the CHN pair today and reach their first GP-Gold SF. It's time for them to show that they can be counted on as INA's top MD pair

..you meant "can be counted on as one of INA's top MD pairs"??

..they haven't won anything significant yet, have they??..

**badadum** · 08-20-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

..you meant "can be counted on as one of INA's top MD pairs"??

..they haven't won anything significant yet, have they??..

They're also only 20yrs old.... give em a bit more time chris

**narnia** · 08-21-2009, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by badadum

They're also only 20yrs old.... give em a bit more time chris

Oh, are they? Very promising.

**alvisiny** · 08-21-2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by isaura

I'm not sure about the news.This is what i've read at an Indonesian forum..DOn't u read this forum ,Detik..I'm not indonesians but i browse this forum everyday just to know about BUtet news and her latest pics..hehe..You should go tehre.Here is the link.
http://forum.detik.com/showthread.php?t=43851&page=191

thank u for ur information

isaura ...

**huangkwokhau** · 08-21-2009, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by isaura

I'm not sure about the news.This is what i've read at an Indonesian forum..DOn't u read this forum ,Detik..I'm not indonesians but i browse this forum everyday just to know about BUtet news and her latest pics..hehe..You should go tehre.Here is the link.
http://forum.detik.com/showthread.php?t=43851&page=191

Nova will play another year and at the same time to assits Richard as well..he will help younger players in XD...so far Frans, Pia, Rizal, etc are asking his advise and he will guide them...Nova is a real gentlmen..he is one of humble players....

**huangkwokhau** · 08-21-2009, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by badadum

They're also only 20yrs old.... give em a bit more time chris

Mext year, PBSI will give at least 3 MD pairs to go to more tournaments....as well as MS

**ctjcad** · 08-21-2009, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by badadum

They're also only 20yrs old.... give em a bit more time chris

Originally Posted by narnia

Oh, are they? Very promising.

..sure, i've no problem in giving them time/opportunities/chances..But don't ya think they have to win something significant first to be counted on as "INA's top MD pair"??..Or maybe better to be "One of INA's top MD pairs"??..(see the difference??)