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    Quote Originally Posted by pramana View Post
    Instead of wondering how will be the best player, I will wonder what my future will bring to play for Indonesia...

    Does anyone know what have the government done to Liem Swie King, Tjun Tjun and Ade Chandra?
    Quote Originally Posted by taufik-ist View Post
    sensitive topic .... i'm wondering who you are..
    It is not a sensitive subject at all. Indonesia is clearly not a Communist country where the governmental powers never change hands from party to party... [thus the budgetary priorities]... Also, we are clearly not a very rich country where getting regular high income from taxes and other ways of raising money are not an issue. Socialism is not an official policy in INA. We don't even have a Social Security blanket etc. Thus, we cannot guarantee lifetime monetary benefits to our athletes... These are the realities of INA. We all have to accept this.

    The players have to earn as much as possible during their prime. Pretty much like other professionals in other sports in the US. As far as I know, there are no 'retirement benefits' for Muhammad Ali or Kareem Abdul Jabar or Carl Lewis or Babe Ruth or Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe or even Michael Jordan from the government of USA. They all earned as much $$$ as possible during their prime, proportional to their respective sports... and that's it. The US government does not take care of them until they die or anything...

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    I thought INA athletes are given chance to be PNS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    I thought INA athletes are given chance to be PNS?
    I have heard something like this, but I don't see the implementation and have never seen the actual policy written anywhere as state-policy... Maybe some politician wanted to sound good to the voters... But [as usual] do not deliver afterwards...

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    Oh wow. I see. That's INA gov't for us anyway.
    If my memory serves me right, the one who said it was nobody else but our dear Minister of Youth and Sports. Haiz...

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    Used to many provincial govt lures athletes from other provinces with the promise of being state employee as well as cold hard cash. It was quite rampant before PON.

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    Again, I thought INA main forces are not allowed to play in PON?

    BTW, when will our IJs (Indonesian Juniors, I mean) be sent to their first international tourney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Again, I thought INA main forces are not allowed to play in PON?

    BTW, when will our IJs (Indonesian Juniors, I mean) be sent to their first international tourney?
    Oh, the policy of: INA players competing in the Olympics [not main forces] should not play in PON only came afterwards... Before that, yes, badabum is correct... before PON, the top players are lured by different provinces with hard cash. Don't know about civil service jobs afterwards. I've never read that in any official policies. Maybe unofficial policies..

    By Indonesian Juniors, do you mean the Pratama team? I suspect the Singapore International Series should be a good test...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Again, I thought INA main forces are not allowed to play in PON?
    It seems all primary players will skip upcoming 17th National Games in Samarinda, East Kalimantan where the schedule is too close with Beijing Games.

    - XVII PON -- 06 - 17 July 2008
    - XXIX OG -- 08 - 24 August 2008

    Previous PON was triennial event but since 1996 it had become quadrennial (same with Olympic year) which is so unfavourable time for athletes who absolutely put top focus on Olympic Games.

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    Sepeaking of PON Tony Gunawan is representing East Java lol........well these Pratama kids....I am looking forward to their development....well but I fear that some of them do the 'curi umur' practice i.e. claiming that they are a few yrs younger

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    Well, they've passed that so-called anti-age-cheating test conducted by PBSI. Unless they can find some way to manipulate the result, or bribing the testers, I think everything will be just fine.

    That test was one of the cause why Seleknas was postponed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d65up2 View Post
    Sepeaking of PON Tony Gunawan is representing East Java lol........well these Pratama kids....I am looking forward to their development....well but I fear that some of them do the 'curi umur' practice i.e. claiming that they are a few yrs younger
    Bambang Suprianto will paired with Shendy Puspa (Djarum) in Walikota Cup, I guess for PON preparation too.

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    I heard that many players from China, Singapore and Phillipine may participate at Walikota Cup

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    No Malaysian shuttlers? It's just a few hours flight from KL to JKT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    No Malaysian shuttlers? It's just a few hours flight from KL to JKT...
    There are seven countries to participate Surabaya Mayor's Cup including Malaysia. Here's the news taken from ANTARA News Agency :


    04/24/08 13:25
    Shuttlers from seven countries to take part in Surabaya Mayor`s Cup


    Surabaya, E Java (ANTARA News) - Shuttlers from seven countries look set to take part in the international Indocock Surabaya Mayor`s Cup to be held here on April 29-May 3.

    The seven countries which had registered with the event`s organizing committee were Malaysia, Singapore, India, Britain, the Philippines, China, and Indonesia, secretary of the event`s organizing committee Irwan Setiadi said on Wednesday.

    Previously, he said, the event was only participated in by shuttlers from four countries.

    He added the drawing would be held on Friday and a technical meeting one day before the event started.

    Spokesman of the event Hari Tjahjono meanwhile said the Surabaya mayor would hold a welcome dinner in honor of the annual event`s participants.

    All foreign shuttlers would be taken to the City Hall by specialy-designed pedicab, he added.
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    I have emailed them for the draw,,,,,,,,,,,,,no replied yet..I am looking forward to see which chinese players are participating...

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    Default Malacca exhibition ( april 26,2008)

    With G Trading' sponsor, Rexy/Ricky had exhibition with Candra/Tony this saturday.

    Rexy/Ricky lost then Rexy paired with Candra and Ricky with Tony, still Rexy /Candra lost 3 sets to Tony/Ricky....

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    thanks for telling us the results, rudy
    any pics>?

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