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    Wink real age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Tiara born 1993, still 16 y.o

    can anyone, particularly from indonesia tells us why there has been a number of claims that young indonesian (12 - 18yr) players look much more older than their identity card! recently was told an under 12 yr indon player stands more than 165cm - its ok here if growth rate is faster but definitely you can't aged so soon! is this some kind of common practice as an advantage to win earlier? make it to the national squad and ...

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    Did more research and found the following:
    Nurbetta Kwanrico/Aulia Putri were indeed dominant in the first half of the year, winning 4 titles - Djarum Sirnas Jakarta & Siliwangi; Indocock Walikota Cup Surabaya & Astec Swasta Nasional.

    In the second half, the Jaya Raya pair Dian Fitriani/Eri Oktaviani Adriyana (only 16 and 17 yo) won 2 titles (Djarum Sirnas Bali and Medan). Plus the Li-Ning Singapore Youth Int GD-U17.

    2 other Djarum pairs, Lidya Pradita/Yayu Raya won 1 Sirnas title in Jawa Timur and Deariska Putri Media/Gloria Emanuelle Wijaya (17 and 16 yo) won 1 Sirnas title in Sulawesi-Malulu-Papua.

    Suci Rizki Andini/Tiara Rosalia Nuraidah won 1 Sirnas title in Tarakan.

    Meanwhile, Anggia Shita Awanda/Shella Devi Aulia are the dominant pair in the U15 category, winning 5 Sirnas titles this year and the Li-Ning Singapore Youth Int GD-U17!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Did more research and found the following:
    Nurbetta Kwanrico/Aulia Putri were indeed dominant in the first half of the year, winning 4 titles - Djarum Sirnas Jakarta & Siliwangi; Indocock Walikota Cup Surabaya & Astec Swasta Nasional ............................

    Meanwhile, Anggia Shita Awanda/Shella Devi Aulia are the dominant pair in the U15 category, winning 5 Sirnas titles this year and the Li-Ning Singapore Youth Int GD-U17!
    does your previous research shows that some of the younger winners suddenly disappear, say age 22 onwards?

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    Auckland IS

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    Ganis Nur Rahmadhani
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    Hanna Ramadhini
    Sirnas Jakarta Open, Siliwangi, Sinar Mutiara Cup
    Taruna: Astec Swasta Nasional

    Anggia Shitta Awanda
    Sirnas Bali, Medan, Sulawesi-Maluku-Papua
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    We still hard to find future INA WS who has potential as World/China beater.

    Siti Anida, has ideal physicall, 176 cm heigh but her technically still raw need more experience. She should find the suitable coach for her.
    Wow, she's so tall almost same height with world #1 Wang Yihan.

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    can sandy or badmania provide a prediction for next year ajc,wjc and youth olympic games squad?

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    Default ^^How about..^^

    ..inputs from Krisna???..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..inputs from Krisna???..
    haha
    sorry
    too tired(only sleep less than 5 hours in 4 days 3 nights)
    of course included krisna

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    Default ^^Off topic-Hmm..too tired cos slept less??^^

    ..you need another, much longer, real camping trip soon (not a camping trip at a school bldg with computer and internet all wired up)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post

    can anyone, particularly from indonesia tells us why there has been a number of claims that young indonesian (12 - 18yr) players look much more older than their identity card! recently was told an under 12 yr indon player stands more than 165cm - its ok here if growth rate is faster but definitely you can't aged so soon! is this some kind of common practice as an advantage to win earlier? make it to the national squad and ...
    Yes, this big problems in here.
    The bigger problems in U-14 age, no age test in this category just born certificate and school document. The age cheater has given big problem by closed the chance of the real age player to showed their ability. The real age players of course less step, less physical, less power than 2 or 3 years age cheater.

    You have to know that PBSI held forensic test to every players who will compete in National. Some of players has been caught and they has been banned for 6 months or 1 years.
    Some of big clubs like Djarum also did this test, other clubs has requested too.

    In some local tournament, the Official tournament did forensic test to the winners. In the middle of 2008, Shella Devi Aulia became the headline news in here. Refence of forensic test from Polri Hospital that she is 15-16 y.o already, PBSI banned her for 1 year. Shella shocked, her mother against it and reported the hospital & PBSI to Police. Her mother brought the pregnant record document and the doctor who helped her when Shella born. The test have been done again in RSCM Hospital. PBSI finally put off the punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    can sandy or badmania provide a prediction for next year ajc,wjc and youth olympic games squad?
    Prediction :

    AJC & WJC
    MS : Evert Sukamta, Riyanto Subagja, Shesar Hiren Rhustavito, Arief Giffar or Subhan Hasan
    MD : Ricky Karanda Suwandi, Jones Jansen, Dandi Prabudita, Darmiko or Subhan Hasan
    WS : Rena Suwarno, Elyzabeth, Hanna Ramadhini, Yeni Asmarani or Dian Fitriani
    WD : Tiara Rosalia, Suci Rizki Andini, Della Destiara, Gebby Ristiani

    Youth Olympic
    MS : Evert Sukamta, Riyanto Subagja
    WS : Rena Suwarno, Elyzabeth, Yeni Asmarani or Dian Fitriani

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Prediction :

    AJC & WJC
    MS : Evert Sukamta, Riyanto Subagja, Shesar Hiren Rhustavito, Arief Giffar or Subhan Hasan
    MD : Ricky Karanda Suwandi, Jones Jansen, Dandi Prabudita, Darmiko or Subhan Hasan
    WS : Rena Suwarno, Elyzabeth, Hanna Ramadhini, Yeni Asmarani or Dian Fitriani
    WD : Tiara Rosalia, Suci Rizki Andini, Della Destiara, Gebby Ristiani

    Youth Olympic
    MS : Evert Sukamta, Riyanto Subagja
    WS : Rena Suwarno, Elyzabeth, Yeni Asmarani or Dian Fitriani
    all ws that participate this year already overage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    all ws that participate this year already overage?
    Elyzabeth forced the seeded-1 in 3 sets in WJC
    Rena Suwarno WO in AJC

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    Wink real age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Yes, this big problems in here.
    The bigger problems in U-14 age, no age test in this category just born certificate and school document. The age cheater has given big problem by closed the chance of the real age player to showed their ability. The real age players of course less step, less physical, less power than 2 or 3 years age cheater.

    You have to know that PBSI held forensic test to every players who will compete in National. Some of players has been caught and they has been banned for 6 months or 1 years.
    Some of big clubs like Djarum also did this test, other clubs has requested too.

    In some local tournament, the Official tournament did forensic test to the winners. In the middle of 2008, Shella Devi Aulia became the headline news in here. Refence of forensic test from Polri Hospital that she is 15-16 y.o already, PBSI banned her for 1 year. Shella shocked, her mother against it and reported the hospital & PBSI to Police. Her mother brought the pregnant record document and the doctor who helped her when Shella born. The test have been done again in RSCM Hospital. PBSI finally put off the punishment.
    thanks! nothing really 100%!

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    A little editing : I mean National Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Yes, this big problems in here.
    The bigger problems in U-14 age, no age test in this category just born certificate and school document. The age cheater has given big problem by closed the chance of the real age player to showed their ability. The real age players of course less step, less physical, less power than 2 or 3 years age cheater.

    You have to know that PBSI held forensic test to every players who will compete in National Team (like as AJC U-19, AJC U-16 or WJC). Some of players has been caught and they has been banned for 6 months or 1 years.
    Some of big clubs like Djarum also did this test, other clubs has requested too.

    In some local tournament, the Official tournament did forensic test to the winners. In the middle of 2008, Shella Devi Aulia became the headline news in here. Refence of forensic test from Polri Hospital that she is 15-16 y.o already, PBSI banned her for 1 year. Shella shocked, her mother against it and reported the hospital & PBSI to Police. Her mother brought the pregnant record document and the doctor who helped her when Shella born. The test have been done again in RSCM Hospital. PBSI finally put off the punishment.
    Last edited by Sandy; 12-22-2009 at 12:41 AM.

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