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Thread: Yonex selection chart
06-08-2005, 10:16 PM #103Originally Posted by wilfredlgf
Anyway, wilfredlgf is right, the chart is just a good rough guide, your performance is a more accurate guide.
06-09-2005, 03:12 AM #104Originally Posted by quicksilver_07
From most flexible to most stiff: SA SR SS SX
06-09-2005, 07:29 PM #105
Now i get it...Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
08-15-2005, 12:13 AM #106
Interesting to compare the Japanese ratings to the ratings of the Yonex Thailand site. Notice the position of the NS8000 vs MP100. Maybe TH racquets are indeed different
08-30-2005, 10:14 PM #107
Probably "Matrix-007" for the next one.
10-08-2005, 06:56 AM #108
ok, the vertical ranking is explainable..offensive or not.
but what's teh deal with singles/doubles? control? durability?
10-08-2005, 08:13 AM #109Originally Posted by ants
10-08-2005, 01:28 PM #110
look at the MP40/44, i dont understand how in one it can be above the Y-axis line, noticably above the MP80/88 and in the other below the 60/66 which is noticably lower than the MP80/88
so what is it exactly? ><
10-08-2005, 01:36 PM #111
When the NS8000 came out, the position of the NS7000 was changed to more defensive.. I guess it's a way of marketing...
Originally Posted by palmboy5
10-08-2005, 01:50 PM #112Originally Posted by palmboy5
10-08-2005, 01:56 PM #113Originally Posted by fast3r
doesnt look like the NS7000 was moved at all with the addition of the NS8000?
Last edited by palmboy5; 10-08-2005 at 01:58 PM.
10-08-2005, 03:10 PM #114Originally Posted by palmboy5
10-11-2005, 11:39 AM #115
In different parts of the world there are different specs to the models. Not versions as some of you believe but specs. For instance in Canada there are specific grip sizes and weights offered that the chart is based on for Canada and the USA. In other areas the grips and weights are different to reflect the differences in buying patterns of each area. North Americans for the most part want raquets with larger grips and weights than Europe and Asia. The charts get printed for each territory by the distributor not by Japan. Because some of the raquets only come one way in a territory they are different than Japan. Example MP88 for Canada is one grip size/one weight. Not so in other parts of the world. Same as the MP44 in Canada is different for Canada and Great Britain. As for doubles and singles differentiation the chart is a rough guide as this is what the raquet is intended for by the design team not a law. Still the bottom line is try before you buy.
11-07-2005, 11:21 PM #116Originally Posted by kwun
more shaft stiffness = offensive play-oriented
less shaft stiffness = defensive play-oriented
reason being stiff shaft helps you smash harder;
more head weight = singles play-oriented
less head weight = doubles play-oriented
reason being less head weight helps quicker game play pace.
However, I do have a few questions. First off, there are more factors of a racket than shaft stiffness and head weight that need to be taken into consideration, it is to me too arbitrary, therefore unlikely close to truth, to use merely two factors to draw this graph. Yonex purposedly make the criteria vague though.
Secondly, does a stiff, or extra stiff shaft the only thing that helps you smash harder? Don't we remember what a heavy head (apart from NS series) can do for your smash has been massively discussed and believed in the forum?
So the simple question is, what parameters on earth are the X axis and the Y axis actually based on, I mean, in technical terms, no as vague as singles or offensive oriented. Let's get right to the core. I looked through 7 pages of discussion in this thread and found that this question hasn't had a clear answer yet. (Am I missing anything here?)
Thanks for reading.
11-08-2005, 01:08 PM #117Originally Posted by franxon
11-09-2005, 05:41 AM #118Originally Posted by Stijn
i seem to remember somebody saying that the chart wasn't based on racquets at all, more a survey of people who use yones racquets and what type of players they thought themselves to be..
this said the charts are useless..unless you value the opinion of other people..
11-10-2005, 12:18 AM #119Originally Posted by coops241180
Besides, I don't think one can accurately evaluate the usefulness or uselessness of a chart before one can interpret it.
Where a racquet fits in the chart being based on the way professionals use it is definitely purely fictional.
First off, some racquets in the chart are NEVER used by any professionals.
Second off, if it's based on players, not racquet itself, why does AT700 have such an EXTREM attack to defense ratio in the chart? Is it because its users, such as Taufik or Chen Hong or Peter Gade, by nature are so much an attacker and so little a defender? Or is it because pros play so much attacking and so little defending with AT700, statistically? NEITHER.
Third off, if it's statistics, why does AT700 have such a MODERATE singles to doubles ratio in the chart? AT700 is vastly used by singles players (there are a few who use AT700 in doubles though), but AT700 is, so are many other so called "singles rackets", IN THE MIDDLE of x-axis. That suggests equal number of singles and doubles players who use AT700. Something doesn't sound right here, right?
The belief that the chart is statistics is to me fallacious.
Last edited by franxon; 11-10-2005 at 12:21 AM.
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