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05-30-2007, 07:14 AM #69
I like the idea of ultra-strict coding -- so that if you make a syntax error, the whole thing breaks That way, everyone would be forced to correct their mistakes.
It's a fanciful, code-geek dream. It's not going to happen, however much I'd like it to -- not until WYSIWYG programs generate valid code by default.
But I validate my code anyway. Okay, so the HTML 4.01 validator won't check for nuances such as closing <p> and <li> tags. Big deal. I write them anyway, and if I miss one it's hardly the end of the world.
Just remember that if XHTML is served with a MIME type of "text/html", then it is no longer XHTML.
On the whole, I agree with Anne van Kesteren on the merits of XHTML:
XHTML is invalid HTML.
Last edited by Gollum; 05-30-2007 at 07:19 AM.
05-30-2007, 07:43 AM #70
This page is also good on the reality of XHTML: http://webkit.org/blog/?p=68
All those “Valid XHTML 1.0!” links on the web are really saying “Invalid HTML 4.01!
In versions prior to Gecko 1.9/Firefox 3, the document is not loaded and rendered incrementally. That is, the document is displayed only after the entire document has been received and parsed.
Last edited by Gollum; 05-30-2007 at 07:47 AM.
05-30-2007, 08:01 AM #71
On the matter of merits and demerits of XHTML, I have to mention that XHTML self-educates by pointing out how tags are properly used as most newbies (me included) began learning web coding by imitating/copying/studying codes from other sites, great majority which aren't properly written eg. no closing tags. HTML care little if not whether they existed or not.
Still, the regimented style of coding brought about by XHTML does help to make it clearer and cleaner - try debugging a piece of web code when you don't know where the elements start and stop. It's like doing C++ without the closing brackets or semicolon!
05-30-2007, 08:05 AM #72
I rue lack of the possibilities of a joker coming in here and saying:
"Get a room, you two geeks".
05-30-2007, 08:16 AM #73
I agree with all your points about XHTML. The purist in me wants to use XHTML. The purist in me feels that XHTML is The One True Way. The purist in me lusts after birch-rod beatings from a stricter master.
But the web developer in me says, "Don't be a fool. Web design is not an aesthetic ideal; it's not about being clever for the sake of being clever. Web design is about making sites work."
05-30-2007, 08:21 AM #74
Screw validation and embrace the graphical utopia that is Frontpage and Dreamweaver!
05-30-2007, 08:26 AM #75
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05-30-2007, 08:28 AM #76
05-31-2007, 01:26 AM #77
i am glad there's self admitted geeks here. not that i dont love em. in fact i need you guys to answer one of my questions. does the search option not working for everybody or is it just me? because if everybody else have no problem with the search option, maybe i need to see what my computer problem is. sorry to be a bother.
05-31-2007, 01:33 AM #78
^^Mine is fine..^^
..at least on my end..what specifically are you looking for or not seeing??..
05-31-2007, 02:11 AM #79
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05-31-2007, 09:38 PM #81
05-31-2007, 10:07 PM #82
errr.... i know i use internet explorer but i have no idea what version it is. is there a difference? i think, most probably, i am using the IE 7.
05-31-2007, 10:16 PM #83
I just did a test by turning it off and the small area doesn't pop up - it jumps straight to the search page.
Works fine for me.
05-31-2007, 10:17 PM #84
i tried using mozilla firefox. that one worked fine. but i like the look and feel of the IE i am using now. *sigh* do i have to use mozilla from now on?
05-31-2007, 10:22 PM #85
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