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    This world isnt that fair, a week earnings in UK can support a vietnamese family for a whole year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nn3r View Post
    This world isnt that fair, a week earnings in UK can support a vietnamese family for a whole year.
    Steven G'd "WEEKLY' wage can support X number of families in vietnam for a year. So imagine Liverpool FC / Chelsea's first team yearly wage budget. How many mouths can THEY feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Well looking at this...Indonesia must stop England's target by setting a higher target...Indonesia mut continue to produce good players so England remain where they are now....
    He he he, ...and good morning KidoSetiawan, how's things?
    In relation to your post, we have a long, long way to go, and I don't think its possible.

    To produce a world class singles player, they need world class training opponents: which Indonesia has always had... there is an unbroken line of great players before Taufik.... We have Andrew Smith,who is alright - a top 20 but not great, he's a bit unsound tactically and technically.

    After the top class sparring need a world class singles coach. So need the money incentive and also they would have to want to work with our substandard players.....

    So I reckon it's 2 'generations' away - assuming people start following the game and we start introducing the game at a grassroots level. We don't get juniors young enough training, work them hard enough or impart the right things.

    Presently, our upcoming players can train abroad - people like Scottish player Alistair Casey do, but find they can't compete with the satellite players.

    Don't worry, even after we get the above, we won't be level with Malaysia, let alone Indonesia because we need a 'culture of success': a history of winning and expectation of doing well.

    Even then - and this is the next step - we don't have the passion for the game. If my countrymen only stopped following s*** sports like golf and rugby - even tennis! and do the sensible thing.....

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    Come on man Rugby n golf are also sensible........well not gol but yea.....Rugby is quite sensible.....


    Difference between INA and MAS

    MAS after their long spell of gloom....they realise it and start rebuilding their squad...

    INA will never realise they are in decline cos they always think they are still good........bunch of idiots

    Whats my basis??? ok an article in bulutangkis.com......in Indo but when translate to English it basically says they are no scouts during the junior competition.....this is INA...just plain lazy......they are waiting for talent not looking for them....Djarum as a club is more active looking if compared to PBSI......

    England in this case.........they are looking for talent....not just waiting....now this is the thing to do although their talent pool is small but at least they are not just waiting........

    PBSI n England Badminton if compared are like Drogba n Stevie G.....England is Stevie G cos they work hard while PBSI is Drogba waiting for the ball to come to him while he waiting on the spot to score.......very sad but fact...I mean face it Christie (never heard of him not famous but at least he loves badminton and dedicates his time for English Badminton) and Sutiyoso (who is only bothered about maximising his wealth)

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    Btw I am no female man......lol........

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    If I am an English guy...I'd rather try to be like Stevie G rather than Nathan...why???

    Look at the pounds they earn...big difference........n the car they drive.....Stevie G has a massive collection of cars while Nathan is struggling to pay his mortgages

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    Btw I am no female man......lol........
    ??????????????????????????????????/lol that must be you replying to someone else man... as far as the rest goes, yeah, you do have to step up your efforts to find new players

    But our program doesn't adress the fact that our talent pool is small: simply because people don't get found at an early enough age: good players don't play other good players and good coaches at regional level are few and far between. Good talents are wasted by not having the opportunity

    The difference is your countrys only aim should be world no.1 and ours realistically is to break into the top 3. In England, it needs to be the escape from poverty that football is in England [and Brazil] - for the working class, otherwise you have too many middle class players whose attitude is to be content in their regional/national set up and not hungry for success because they can afford to be amateurs. Also their ethic is 'enjoy the game' [subtext: even if they're mediocre] rather than 'win/succeed'. No hunger and drive. I am very driven personally, but quite limited as a player, but my mentality is seen as being not acceptable. On a football pitch, people can go crazy, be passionate [and yeah, sometimes over the top] - in badminton, it just isn't toleratred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    If I am an English guy...I'd rather try to be like Stevie G rather than Nathan...why???

    Look at the pounds they earn...big difference........n the car they drive.....Stevie G has a massive collection of cars while Nathan is struggling to pay his mortgages
    There we go. That's the nail on the cofifn.

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    I think those reserve players who we never known off earn even higher to LINDAN & TAUFIK add together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nn3r View Post
    I think those reserve players who we never known off earn even higher to LINDAN & TAUFIK add together!
    Very true...I have just found out that a player from Yeovil (a substitute player) they earn something like 150 Pounds a week.....now dats crazy....Lin Dan doen't earn dat much I suppose.......well maybe they do...but come on Taufik and Lin Dan are the top players.......If Taufik n Lin Dan come to live in England I dun think they can afford a Ford while Stevie G can afford 30 of them lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    Very true...I have just found out that a player from Yeovil (a substitute player) they earn something like 150 Pounds a week.....now dats crazy....Lin Dan doen't earn dat much I suppose.......well maybe they do...but come on Taufik and Lin Dan are the top players.......If Taufik n Lin Dan come to live in England I dun think they can afford a Ford while Stevie G can afford 30 of them lol.....
    Which yeovil are you talking about?

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    Hahaha this guys have not even heard of the team.....Yeovil the one in division 2 I think....not sure myself........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    Hahaha this guys have not even heard of the team.....Yeovil the one in division 2 I think....not sure myself........
    Oh that football club. I managed that team in championship manager series from conference to premier league beaters.

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    Hahaha I can't believe ppl play the game as well.....I think they should make video games for badminton...I mean come on I wanna see Taufik in the thing...Imagine the first Indonesian personel to be in PS2....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    England chief sets radical target
    By David Garrido, BBC Sport


    Christy: "We don't want this just to be the Gail & Nathan show."
    Boom time for badminton
    By Gareth A Davies
    Last Updated: 12:20am GMT 14/11/2007

    The success of British badminton stars Nathan Robertson and Gail Emms at the Athens Olympics in 2004, where they won a silver medal in the mixed doubles, and their rise to be the world's No 1 pairing has had an impact in school halls all over the country.

    Gareth A Davies: Holmes leading the way for women
    The sport is enjoying a boom in schools and this season more than 12,000 children will be competing in Badminton England's National Inter-Schools Championships. That doubles the number of youngsters who took part in last season's successful pilot event. What has pushed badminton back into the school day is its inclusion in the UK School Games, as one of eight participating sports.

    advertisementBadminton England chief executive Adrian Christy intends to get the sport, which is highly rated by exercise experts and cheap to organise, on the national curriculum. "It's one of the biggest, if not the biggest, school sporting events. The aim is to get badminton playing a significant part in the school curriculum all over the country," he said. "It will be a bonus if some of the youngsters go on to develop into a Nathan Robertson or a Gail Emms."

    Besides their Olympic success, Robertson and Emms are England's 2006 world champions and Commonwealth gold medallists. The key here, however, is developing a generation of teenagers who play the sport to club level.

    Badminton England estimate that about 4,000 schools play some form of badminton, giving this competition huge potential and offering the most exciting opportunity for the sport in England since its inclusion in the Olympics in 1992.

    The championships are split into two age groups, for both boys and girls. In last season's event the winners in the north were Tapton School in Yorkshire (boys, years 7, 8 and 9) and Silverdale School in Yorkshire (boys, 10 and 11). Altrincham Grammar in Cheshire (years, 7, 8 and 9) and Westholme School in Lancashire (years 10 and 11) were the girls' winners.

    In the south, Cotham School in Gloucestershire won the boys 7, 8, 9 final and Thornden School, Hampshire, won the boys 10 and 11. The girls 7, 8, 9 winners were Royal Latin School in Buckinghamshire and the 10 and 11 title went to Sir William Perkins's School in Surrey.

    The first round of the championships is hosted by individual school sport partnerships, comprising generally six schools, with a local specialist sports college acting as a hub school. The winners progress to a county round, before the regional rounds will take place in April, with a national finals weekend to follow later that month.

    www.telegraph.co.uk/davies

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    I thought they are on the way all this while?
    With little money, they can take WCH or maybe TCS to stay abroad with Tan Kim Her. Then some chinese team especially the girl. Then some Indonesian like Taufik or Tony G or Chandra W when they retired. They would be as competitive in a few more years time.

    Not World no 1 though. I think even China has a big possibility but that can't be guarantee after 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidosetiawan View Post
    I agree most English ppl won't play the sport....why would they wanna play badminton???

    lets make a comparison between 2 English guys....Steven Gerrard and Nathan Robertson.....who would English ppl rather be?? I think is the first name no doubt.....

    another comparison Andrew Smith or Jermaine Jennas (of course the 2nd one)...English culture is football and rugby not badminton so is unrealistic to challenge Indon and other badminton power house....for Mens single for example Malaysia in the future would have Tan Chun Seang and Lyn kenn wateve his name is...INA will have Andre Kurniawan, Hayom, Ari Yuli Wahyu while in Mixed Indo have Polli and Rizal, Devin Lahardi-Lita Nurlita...so I think is unrealistic......

    If I am English I'd rather be Gerrard than Robertson.......well I only like badminton cos its popular in Indonesia and we are only good in badminton
    that's right, especially if u play for the big club. carrer, money, and nice gf all belongs to you.

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