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    doubles- armortec900 T, new armortec700

    singles- old armortec700, armortec900 P

    you said you wanted to smash hard, but you dont want a really stiff racket...if that's the case, get the new armortec700. it's not extremely stiff, easy to use and will get you adequete power. it can be used for both doubles and singles(recommended doubles) although i would say it would rank below both the 900T and old armortec700, but above the 900T in terms of smash power.

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    There's no difference between the old and new at700.

    However, the weight of the racket can determine which style is best suited for which style. A 4U would be more maneuverable than a 3U.

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    hello guys! i'm back! sorry. i have classes

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    There's no difference between singles or doubles for AT series!
    Its just that whether what type of player and what kind of style u play ...
    eg:chen yu from china uses AT900 power and LIn dan uses it too
    Koo Kien Keat uses AT 900 tech

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiWeiZ View Post
    There's no difference between singles or doubles for AT series!
    Its just that whether what type of player and what kind of style u play ...
    eg:chen yu from china uses AT900 power and LIn dan uses it too
    Koo Kien Keat uses AT 900 tech
    I don't see how your example contradicts the previous posters view that 900T are more popular with doubles and 900P for singles

    /Twobeer

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    Arrow Major Difference between AT900s and AT700

    There is a big difference between the at900s and the at700.

    The at900 uses the system one hole - one string. This results in less pressure in each grommet and the stringing job will be much more easier. As you know get grommets its not easy!

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    That's actually pretty minor compared to the above stated reasons...

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    Arrow AT700 vs AT900s - Gigantic differences

    Quote Originally Posted by Athelete1234 View Post
    That's actually pretty minor compared to the above stated reasons...
    I am refering this element, because as you saw in this post (and in others), the difference between AT700 and AT900s (namely AT900P) is very small. So, we have to analyse "minor" differences.

    I can assure you, that when you string the racket 6 or more times (depends on the string and the tension) you will begin to have damaged grommets; and when you verify that its difficult to get the grommets, you will consider those "minor" differences, as you said, gigantic differences.

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    despite having a different balance, different crosssection (tech vs Power/700) and different stiffness....it's the grommets that matter?

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    Arrow YES the grommets matter!

    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    despite having a different balance, different crosssection (tech vs Power/700) and different stiffness....it's the grommets that matter?
    What I said using another words, was that the general opinion about the differences between AT900s and AT700, are very small. So, the grommets matter, because if the racket has the grommets damadged, you will not buy it; so you will not be happy if after 6 string jobs, the grommets are damadge without the possibility to replace them easily. And grommets system is different from AT700 for some reason right? The grommets system is also one of the racket characteristics!
    Last edited by gavias; 10-26-2007 at 08:25 PM.

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    I wouldn't say the "differences are very small", but that's me...

    I also wouldn't say I notice anything about the grommetsystem when I play...

    and, stringing my own rackets, the grommets on my at500 lasted 2 years, after which I sold it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiWeiZ View Post
    There's no difference between singles or doubles for AT series!
    Its just that whether what type of player and what kind of style u play ...
    eg:chen yu from china uses AT900 power and LIn dan uses it too
    Koo Kien Keat uses AT 900 tech
    i thot LD uses at700, kkk uses new ti-10

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    the technique is more similar to nanospeed series and 900 is like 700

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    Arrow The grommet system its not important!?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    I wouldn't say the "differences are very small", but that's me...

    I also wouldn't say I notice anything about the grommetsystem when I play...

    and, stringing my own rackets, the grommets on my at500 lasted 2 years, after which I sold it..
    1. Explain why you consider that the differences are not very small. For sure all the palyers that have tested the rackets are interested in your different opinion.

    2. You are saying that you didn't noticed anything about the grommet system. That means that in your opinion have the grommet system that has been adopted to AT900s (and other older models) or the old one is the same?

    3. You string your rackets, Ok, great, congratulations. But I cannot analyse what happens with you and with the minorities, because as you know the majority of the players don't string their rackets, right?

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    AT700- very head heavy, stiff, short handle, box x-section
    AT900P- head heavy, very stiff, long handle, box x-section
    AT900T- moderate balance, stiff, long handle, aero x-section.
    I'd consider balance and stiffness, as well as handle length all more important than grommet system. I mean...Grommets don't make a difference until they break, and I'm pretty sure that it's easy to get grommets replaced when they break.

    And what Jerby meant- when playing with a racquet, the grommet system doesn't really affect the power, speed, responsiveness, vibration, etc of the racquet. Perhaps thats why he didn't really notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athelete1234 View Post
    AT700- very head heavy, stiff, short handle, box x-section
    AT900P- head heavy, very stiff, long handle, box x-section
    AT900T- moderate balance, stiff, long handle, aero x-section.
    I'd consider balance and stiffness, as well as handle length all more important than grommet system. I mean...Grommets don't make a difference until they break, and I'm pretty sure that it's easy to get grommets replaced when they break.

    And what Jerby meant- when playing with a racquet, the grommet system doesn't really affect the power, speed, responsiveness, vibration, etc of the racquet. Perhaps thats why he didn't really notice.
    I never said that the grommet system is the most important, or is more important then balance or stiffness!

    You are saying that its easy to get grommets. Perhaps be easy (I doubt if we are talking about Yonex grommets) in your country. In my country isn't.

    The box is in delta shape, right?

    By curiosity, which one you prefer for singles play, AT900P or AT700, and why?

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    I dont' have the 900P, but I swung it around and it felt kind of similar to the 700, but a bit faster. I generally use the 700 in all types of play; the head heaviness doesn't really affect my defense, doesn't really make my control that much worse. Power is great for the 700.

    IMO, don't sweat about the grommets stuff. I know that it's a a difference that might affect your power, control, etc, but I was just pointing out that there are a few more things that are a tad bit more important . As for the box shape; it's what it sounds like. I has a wide, flat surface on the all sides of the frame, so it's not very aerodynamic, according to other members, it's similar to the old carbonex frames. Definately not good for speed, but great for face stability.

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