Chemistry in the Rackets

Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by Azn_novA, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Azn_novA

    Azn_novA Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    Hi, i'm new to this badminton forum, and I was wondering if there were anyone with any knowledge of how the high-end badminton rackets are made. For example I have been on the yonex website, and I've read about the nanotechnology involved in making nanospeed rackets. For all the scientific people here, I've realized the nanotechnology is made from tiny carbon nanotubes or carbon nano-"soccer balls". If anyone out there know any interesting information about how this nanotechnology used in the nanospeed rackets, please post here!

    By the way, this is for a chemistry assignment that I'm working on, and it has been quite difficult to find more detailed, chemistry related information about this topic. I'm mainly focusing on the actually carbon atoms/molecule/compounds that are involved.

    Again thank you, in advance, for any information that may be posted here.
     
  2. silentheart

    silentheart Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    3,327
    Likes Received:
    34
    Location:
    USA
  3. Green72(CAN)

    Green72(CAN) Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2005
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Vancouver, Canada
    The Yonex advertisement is somewhat in that the material from nanotechnology in rackets is likely carbon nanotubes (bucky tubes), instead of bucky balls (please correct me if I'm wrong).

    I recommend looking up carbon nanotubes.
     
  4. Omegamiko

    Omegamiko Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2006
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    I'm a student, doing webdesign and a badminton equ
    Location:
    Washington
    No, there are Buckminster Fullerene (Bucky Balls) in the 3 and 9 o'clock positions of the frame, and carbon nanotubes in select parts of the rest of the frame. The majority of it is still just high modulus graphite. There aren't "bucky-tubes", the nano-carbon just means they've got powdered carbon filling up the gaps between the tubes and glued and stuff.
     
  5. vagpwner

    vagpwner Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Singapore
    are there? and i thought for the Ns9k the entire shaft is made of fullerene. Only on lower end ns models theres fullerene + hm graphite as stated.
     
  6. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    EU
    anybody got a clue what those things cost? I really have no idea... I thought I heard somebody say a gram of buckeyballs costs ~150usd....

    if so, it's not likely to be véry present in a racket, now is it? ;)
    (still looking for a source though)
     
  7. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    EU
    too late to edit..but I can't find a source...makign my point pretty much void..sorry guys
     
  8. vagpwner

    vagpwner Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Singapore
    haha it aint diamond bro.
     
  9. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    EU
    indeed, diamonds are a product of nature...Buckeyballs / nanotubes have millions of dollars worth of R&D in it... I wouldn't be surprised if it really cost that much...

    Google is not helping either...
     
  10. vagpwner

    vagpwner Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Singapore
    both are allotropes of carbon though
     
  11. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    EU
    so is the inner part of your pencil...what's the point? ;)
    excuse the bad pun :p

    Also, buckeyballs are not likely to be used because nobody is absolutly sure how it reacts in the outer world (reacting with bacteria etc)
    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6458
     
    #11 jerby, Jun 3, 2007
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2007
  12. Smichz

    Smichz Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,385
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Student,Tour guide,Marketer
    Location:
    Beijing,Guilin,K.L & Jakarta
    i never really understand what's nano or woven.Just know that it helps in the game,n bought it.
     
  13. vagpwner

    vagpwner Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Singapore
    Stuff manufacturers chuck in a lil to part you and your money.
     
  14. twobeer

    twobeer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    4,001
    Likes Received:
    14
    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Sweden
    My suggestion is that you first use the search function of this forum.. There are MANY posts on technology, Nanotubes, buckyballs, fullerene etc. etc. in the forum with lots of information already.

    /Twobeer
     
  15. Azn_novA

    Azn_novA Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    Thanks a lot for the contribution everyone! I've looked a lot of stuff. All containing buckyballs and whatnot. I also contacted Yonex to see if they would let me know how they use the nanotechnology (chemically based) to create rackets. they unfortunately emailed back and said whatever is advertised or displayed on their website is all they are allowed to give out to the public...
     
  16. silentheart

    silentheart Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    3,327
    Likes Received:
    34
    Location:
    USA
    I can tell you, but I have to kill you...
     
  17. Azn_novA

    Azn_novA Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    lol cmon silentheart, send me a email! lol I won't tell anyone... I got 3 days till this project is due! Gotta ace chemistry to get myself into Waterloo! ;)
     
  18. silentheart

    silentheart Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    3,327
    Likes Received:
    34
    Location:
    USA
    What! the place Napolean lost badly? Why???:confused::crying::eek::D
     
  19. Azn_novA

    Azn_novA Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    ?confused? lol well i'm going to Waterloo for mechanical engineering :D

    whats this Napolean stuff? i'm not much of an historian
     
  20. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    EU
    it's a famous battlesite in Europe where napolean was defeated while having greater numbers. (uphill battle, mud, canons, bad charges, brilliant carre from the opposition)
    sorry, I'm a sorta (selective memory) history fan ;)

    anyhoo....nanotec? Are buckeyballs actually in use at the moment? With all the toxic stuff and so forth?
     

Share This Page