luluk/alven

**aiyuuw** · 12-22-2004, 04:08 AM

wat do u think bout them, they seem to improve a lot towards the end of 2004?
next ricky/rexy?or just a fluke (their wins)?

**seven** · 12-22-2004, 05:39 AM

They seem to have been in great form lately but they did take time before reaching the top (they are already 25 and 24).
Anyway, only time will tell if they are the new top pair, or if younger (indo?) pairs will overtake them...
What is sure is that they are very skillful!

***GaDe~CaMiLlA*** · 12-22-2004, 06:06 AM

they r improved now and i think they will be the next ricky/rexy!

**Neil Nicholls** · 12-22-2004, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by aiyuuw

next ricky/rexy?or just a fluke (their wins)?

my opinion is
not even close
and
no

**Ben Beckman** · 12-22-2004, 09:30 AM

don't think they will be as dominant as ricky/rexy.

BTW do u think rexy kept that pair at the top, ricky was very good but i don't think he was as good as rexy who was the true genius of the duo.

***jamesd20*** · 12-22-2004, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Ben Beckman

don't think they will be as dominant as ricky/rexy.

BTW do u think rexy kept that pair at the top, ricky was very good but i don't think he was as good as rexy who was the true genius of the duo.

I think in doubles you need a balance, two genius' dont make a top pair.

Take Sigit and Trikush, and tony and halim Sigit/tri were both genius's ion their own, but when together ABC2004 apart, they were not spectacular. Sigit with candra however, where candra is the more, how can I say, "subtle" player, and they are a great partnership. Likwise tony/halim, halim is more "subtle" and tony was more of a play maker.

Ditto Kim/Ha, Lee/Yoo

**Qidong** · 12-23-2004, 12:18 AM

I don't know any double teams before Park Joo Bong/anybody. But I think Ricky/Rexy are the best. I think at their peak, Ricky/Rexy can beat Park Joo Bong/anybody and Kim/Ha. The only team I think can give Ricky/Rexy a good game is Park Joo Bong/Kim Dong Moon.

**Qidong** · 12-23-2004, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by jamesd20

I think in doubles you need a balance, two genius' dont make a top pair.

I think one exception is Park Joo Bong/Kim Dong Moon. I watched they play once on dvd, and they were flawless.

**Anatolii** · 12-23-2004, 12:28 AM

certainly improved a lot! i was practicallyy cringing with fear when i first saw them play against kim/ha during the recencet olympics..

they're now a far cry from those times imo.

**udin_udik** · 12-23-2004, 01:49 AM

Thomas Cup is coming soon

**dikadp** · 12-23-2004, 01:56 AM

well i guess alvent and luluk has find their best performance........and its not impossible that next year they will win the sudirman cup............and could be the next ricky subagja/ rexy mainaky

**seven** · 12-23-2004, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Qidong

I think one exception is Park Joo Bong/Kim Dong Moon. I watched they play once on dvd, and they were flawless.

Don't you mean Park Joo Bong/Kim Moon Soo rather?

**shawn30_k** · 12-23-2004, 04:00 AM

ya alven and luluk are a frightening pair.ive only watch them play twice but its enough to see that they are extremely quick to attack the shuttle thats 1 of their key winning factor.

***jamesd20*** · 12-23-2004, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Qidong

I think one exception is Park Joo Bong/Kim Dong Moon. I watched they play once on dvd, and they were flawless.

Agreed. They are flair players, but with great thought and hard work as well-Something for example sigit may not have.

**Qidong** · 12-23-2004, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by seven

Don't you mean Park Joo Bong/Kim Moon Soo rather?

No, it's Kim Dong Moon who just retired after this year's olympic. They were playing Antonious/Kantono, and obviously 1 level higher. I don't remember Rexy/Ricky ever dominated Antonious/Kantono like that.

**seven** · 12-24-2004, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Qidong

No, it's Kim Dong Moon who just retired after this year's olympic. They were playing Antonious/Kantono, and obviously 1 level higher. I don't remember Rexy/Ricky ever dominated Antonious/Kantono like that.

OK, I couldn't remember Park Joo Bong ever playing with Kim Dong Moon...