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    thank you panda just what i was hoping from someone like you! thumbs up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Like Illusionist said, there is no ultimate racket. But I know you want discussion so Panda will bite...so three racket types...at the same time...come to mind for "ultimate"! Weird? Read on...

    Racket # 1 for ultimate offense: this racket is a smasher's dream and would probably be the SOTX Woven 11, 680mm long, extra long shaft, woven frame, 92g, BP300, extra stiff shaft though it doesn't feel it because the shaft is extra long = bombs. So solid, so powerful, so awesome, the ultimate offensive racket but shaft durability is a problem and just average defense. So the Woven 11 is the ultimate for attacking and solid feel but that's it. So it cannot be the ultimate racket.

    Racket # 2 for ultimate defense: this racket is for super defense and would probably be the Yonex AT800-DE and SOTX Woven 5/5A. The AT800-DE has slightly better defense but the 5/5A is more stable and responsive. Both are the ultimate defense rackets but attacking is relatively lacking so neither can be the ultimate racket.

    Racket # 3 for ultimate all-around: a few worthy contenders: Panda Power Trinity 2 (Weight: 87.5g, BP290), APACS Tantrum 200 (86.5g, BP290), APACS Visible Hollow 1800 (87.0g, BP290), APACS 9600 Tour (87.5g, BP290), SOTX Woven 2 (88.0g, BP290), Yonex MP100 (87.0g, BP290), Yonex Ti10 1st Gen (87.0g, BP300). But since none of these is either the ultimate in attacking or ultimate in defense, they cannot be the ultimate either.

    Conclusion: there is NO ultimate racket.
    Wow, none of the latest Yonex rackets get a mention.

    I had a look back and at one stage you were a bit ga-ga over the Woven 8. How do you feel about it, in retrospect?

    Do you think Yonex has dropped the ball that much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Just like in life, when it's subjective and limited by physical limitations, the answer is simply:

    There is no all-in-one ultimate or best racket.

    What's best for one person maybe terrible for another and vice versa. In addition, what's ultimate for a person one day may not be the next day.

    It's all relative.
    so means like no muscle newbie stickman would think a defensive light racket is good coz he can defend well and sometimes get a shot or two in. boost ego.

    then train until become average not-so-stickman would go for something abit more overall to improve his game.

    then mebbe later have more dexterity, muscle, and stamina would go for more offensive play with offensive type racket and say thats good, and others are lousy?

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    It has to do with personal preference and playstyle, NOT necessarily how good / strong you are.

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    Any mizuno or forza you can add to the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingskawn View Post
    Any mizuno or forza you can add to the list?
    Soon, hopefully...the Mizuno TC700 and Forza 550VS.

    TC700 = too much of a good thing means, not so good.

    550VS = one of the top rackets I've tried in recent memory. Better yet, one of the top...say 10 rackets I've ever tried.

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    I think Panda should try the APACS Furious 60...it's rated Extra Stiff (7.3-7.7mm) BP~288...just suggestion I'm not interested in this racket lol

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    Bro Dinkalot : In your opinion , which is the top 3 rackets u feel is the best .. thanks!

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    Look on the previous page.

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    Oh dear ferrerkiko.... ::sigh::

    forza is a brand I haven't heard much of. This definitely catches my attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko View Post
    Bro Dinkalot : In your opinion , which is the top 3 rackets u feel is the best .. thanks!
    This is all relative. Your best is not necessary his best. Reason is different feeling, different setup and different playing style. Even racket of the same model might not feel the same due to different balance point and weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Soon, hopefully...the Mizuno TC700 and Forza 550VS.

    TC700 = too much of a good thing means, not so good.

    550VS = one of the top rackets I've tried in recent memory. Better yet, one of the top...say 10 rackets I've ever tried.
    Ok that's weird, when I asked mizuno and forza, the only rackets I had in mind were the Mizuno T700 and Forza 550VS

    I want these to be compared to;
    Apacs Visible Hollow 1700
    Apacs Visible Hollow 1800
    Apacs Lethal 50
    Apacs Nano Fusion 608 Pro
    Apacs Tantrum 200


    I'm an attacking player and already broke 2x sotx woven 8. I have a long swing when I smash.

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    If you have a long swing try the VH1800 and Forza 550VS, that's my best guess recommendation.

    It's too hard to recommend a racket without seeing you play.


    Quote Originally Posted by kingskawn View Post
    Ok that's weird, when I asked mizuno and forza, the only rackets I had in mind were the Mizuno T700 and Forza 550VS

    I want these to be compared to;
    Apacs Visible Hollow 1700
    Apacs Visible Hollow 1800
    Apacs Lethal 50
    Apacs Nano Fusion 608 Pro
    Apacs Tantrum 200

    I'm an attacking player and already broke 2x sotx woven 8. I have a long swing when I smash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko View Post
    Bro Dinkalot : In your opinion , which is the top 3 rackets u feel is the best .. thanks!
    Nice question Ferrerkiko, you never fail to amuse me. I can imagine Panda now reaching for his big stash of rackets and feeling each one of them to see which is best

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingskawn View Post
    I want these to be compared to;
    You want? If you want to compare them just wait for the new chart and you can do it yourself .

    Quote Originally Posted by ryim_ View Post
    Nice question Ferrerkiko, you never fail to amuse me. I can imagine Panda now reaching for his big stash of rackets and feeling each one of them to see which is best
    Good thing panda's don't hybernate else he'd be the first meal after .
    Last edited by demolidor; 12-18-2009 at 05:02 AM.

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    Hallo Sir DinkAlot

    How do you rate the following for Doubles (Allround) Attacking (Offensive) play, i.e. More Attacking and less Defense like moderate towards both?

    01. Yonex ARC Z Slash
    02. Yonex AT900Power
    03. RSL Diamond X3 Silver
    04. Carlton Vapour Trail Tour
    05. Panda Trinity or Ultra
    06. SOTX Woven 12A, 8A, 16
    07. LiNing N50, N55
    08. Karakal rackets
    09. APACS Lethal 70
    10. Victor BS09, 10, 11 or SW35

    I would like to purchase any one of the above. After your rating I can decide to for which model.

    Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbi2004 View Post
    Hallo Sir DinkAlot

    How do you rate the following for Doubles (Allround) Attacking (Offensive) play, i.e. More Attacking and less Defense like moderate towards both?

    01. Yonex ARC Z Slash
    02. Yonex AT900Power
    03. RSL Diamond X3 Silver
    04. Carlton Vapour Trail Tour
    05. Panda Trinity or Ultra
    06. SOTX Woven 12A, 8A, 16
    07. LiNing N50, N55
    08. Karakal rackets
    09. APACS Lethal 70
    10. Victor BS09, 10, 11 or SW35

    I would like to purchase any one of the above. After your rating I can decide to for which model.

    Regards.
    he may not have reviewed some of those racket, and therefore could not give a true view. why not just use the racket review, its pretty definitive.

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