Tan Chun Seang

[Jagdpanther]

Bro, not every good coach must be a good player!

Well, you're right.
The funny thing is, the reverse also applies: not every good player become a good coach.

[eaglehelang]

- T
- Yes, there are & you can still find "old fashion American gals". They just have to search them in the southern states, Texas, mid-U.S. states and some northwest states.

If I not mistaken, TCS already attached.

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- This rule will make other prospective young/junior players think twice, if not thrice, in their aspiration of joining BAM.
- If TCS is brave enough, come to U.S. lah. Join your other ex-compatriot, Lee Hock Lai, as one of the local coaches. Can compete in the local tourneys also lah, earn U.S. dollar...

- That was my thought too but you put it clearer.
- You never say, I also forgot all about Lee Hock Lai
TCS can also apply to join the 4 uncles's baddy academy or Cheah Soon Kit's setup. If Au Kok Leong (ex-KLRC MD player) a lesser known player, can be the assistant coach there....

Looking at it another way, with this issue & media coverage, now TCS is 'famous' already, the overseas clubs or league reading will think "Ohhh, never noticed this guy, didnt know he exist...."

[Jagdpanther]

Looking at it another way, with this issue & media coverage, now TCS is 'famous' already, the overseas clubs or league reading will think "Ohhh, never noticed this guy, didnt know he exist...."

Next comes a question: "Is this guy good?"

[Dato A]

I think if he is dedicated enough, he will earn good money as a coach to juniors in Singapore.

Or maybe SBA can help TCS to get PR and represent Singapore in international events. I consider him is a good FT.

[Loh]

Or maybe SBA can help TCS to get PR and represent Singapore in international events. I consider him is a good FT.

Dato, I'm afraid you haven't read BAM's restrictions properly.

[Badmintan]

Aiya, some datuk in BAM can pull string-lah, only thing is TCS has good relationship or not.

[SibugiChai]

Aiya, some datuk in BAM can pull string-lah, only thing is TCS has good relationship or not.

that's why when politician got involve in sports, the politician also bring along their political way into the sports...

Kick Racism outta badminton!

Kick Politician outta Badminton!

[limsy]

that's why when politician got involve in sports, the politician also bring along their political way into the sports...

Kick Racism outta badminton!

Kick Politician outta Badminton!

well
that is a long way

[Dato A]

Any update stories on this fellow?

[jug8man]

source:http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...432&sec=sports

Sunday September 27, 2009
Players’ welfare needs a re-look if BAM want to retain the best
COMMENT
By RAJES PAUL
THE BA of Malaysia (BAM), in an unprecedented move, slapped former back-up shuttler Tan Chun Seang with a two-year ban from international tournaments when he walked out on the national team two weeks ago.

Did the national body do the right thing?

There are two schools of thought here.

One group say BAM did the right thing. After all, the national body had spent a lot of time, money and resources to groom and mould him from a young age. This group praised the BAM for having the gall to protect their own interests.

The other saw it as a beginning of a Draconian rule.

They may have a point.

Is BAM the best place for all players – back-up, elite back-up and elite – to be in? Or is BAM giving spe**cial attention to only the elite shuttlers?

Men’s singles world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei may be hitting the RM1mil mark in annual income but what about all the back-up shuttlers waiting in the wings?

Believe it or not, an ordinary back-up shuttler only draws RM500 a month – a sum that is less than what some maids get these days.

Even a reserve player in a state football team takes home RM2,000 a month.

Chung Seang’s decision to walk away had nothing to do with the standard of coaching in the national body or his lack of passion for the game. It was because of his difficulty in making ends meet.

The 22-year-old was struggling to survive on the RM1,300-monthly allowance which he was getting as an elite back-up shuttler.

There are monthly car instalments, handphone bills and family commitments.

So, can we blame him for jumping ship the moment he finds out that he can make much more by playing elsewhere?

Even club and independent international players seem to be making a lot of money. Just look at former internationals Wong Choong Hann, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng and Tan Bin Shen-Gan Teik Chai.

By being a free agent, they can do what a national shuttler cannot do – get as many sponsors they want and even do private coaching. On top of that, they get to compete in many tournaments.

The BAM will have to do some re-branding to improve their status as the home for the ‘best of the best’ in the county.

Their structure and programmes must be far better than those offered by clubs and states, and they must also make it appealing enough that no aspiring youngster will be tempted to leave.

If the BAM cannot give the shuttlers more than what is on offer outside, then, they should not stop the players from finding greener pasture.

[limsy]

The other saw it as a beginning of a Draconian rule.

They may have a point.

Is BAM the best place for all players – back-up, elite back-up and elite – to be in? Or is BAM giving spe**cial attention to only the elite shuttlers?

Men’s singles world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei may be hitting the RM1mil mark in annual income but what about all the back-up shuttlers waiting in the wings?

Believe it or not, an ordinary back-up shuttler only draws RM500 a month – a sum that is less than what some maids get these days.

Even a reserve player in a state football team takes home RM2,000 a month.

Chung Seang’s decision to walk away had nothing to do with the standard of coaching in the national body or his lack of passion for the game. It was because of his difficulty in making ends meet.

The 22-year-old was struggling to survive on the RM1,300-monthly allowance which he was getting as an elite back-up shuttler.

There are monthly car instalments, handphone bills and family commitments.

So, can we blame him for jumping ship the moment he finds out that he can make much more by playing elsewhere?

Even club and independent international players seem to be making a lot of money. Just look at former internationals Wong Choong Hann, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng and Tan Bin Shen-Gan Teik Chai.

By being a free agent, they can do what a national shuttler cannot do – get as many sponsors they want and even do private coaching. On top of that, they get to compete in many tournaments.

The BAM will have to do some re-branding to improve their status as the home for the ‘best of the best’ in the county.

Their structure and programmes must be far better than those offered by clubs and states, and they must also make it appealing enough that no aspiring youngster will be tempted to leave.

If the BAM cannot give the shuttlers more than what is on offer outside, then, they should not stop the players from finding greener pasture.

thats right...

[Loh]

thats right...

I think I read somewhere that TCS gets around $1500. Is that right?

[eaglehelang]

I think I read somewhere that TCS gets around $1500. Is that right?

Rm1,300 uncle, it's in The Star articles. But bf TCS was elit back up, only RM500/month.

[SibugiChai]

source:http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...432&sec=sports
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i think this writer got most of her info from BC

[OneToughBirdie]

Invested 7 long years and now 2 years ban from internationals, that probably wipe out whatever remaining baddy career TCS has. It was just not too long ago, TCS was a new MAS hope and now, a has-been. That is why I could never relate to some BCers jumping to defend LCW, LD or TH as though they are related to these players cos these players are well compensated and life after baddy is already set. I have posted many times the plight of those lesser fortunate players who have entertained us, invested their youth and future playing a game and end up going nowhere. Risky business to begin with...but if you are a high dropout or an army person, nothing to lose anyway and time proven lots to gain.

[cheekygen]

BAM knew TCS's intention of joining other club by quitting the national team and that is why they ban him for 2 years from international tournament. If TCS's really wanted to quit because of personal reason, family problems, want to study etc, i think BAM is willing to let him go for his own good.

Like Rajes pointed, 2 school of thoughts. Practically, BAM did the right thing in banning him for 2 years because TCS have every intention to compete in international tournaments after leaving the national team. In addition to that he was not honest with his reasons given to BAM cited personal problems but the real intention is to play for other clubs. For BAM, if you want to quit means you really want to leave the sport unless you are no longer performing or maturing under BAM's wing. The action is also meant to set an example to other existing players who is thinking to jump ship.

On the other hand, BAM should examine why players want to jump ship.
As Rajes mentioned " Is BAM the best place for all players – back-up, elite back-up and elite – to be in? Or is BAM giving special attention to only the elite shuttlers?" ..
The key word is here.... BAM is not the best place for all players. - notice the the article by RP did not appear on BAM's website? BAM simply cannot accept criticism.

Why the double standard by allowing some players like Wong Choong Hann, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng and Tan Bin Shen-Gan Teik Chai to play for clubs and earn a better living but to restrict a young player like CS to do the same? Is it fair? No, it's never fair and player like TCS can never have any choice in that matter. You either stay or quit.

Although TCS have every reason to fight for a better future in his badminton career but he made a mistake by quitting impulsively (handling letter without discussing with the matter deeply with coaches/officials.) There might be solution but the whole thing has been reported in the news media and blown out of propotion so it put BAM in a difficult situation and pressure to take action. He should consult someone who is trustable in BAM as a mediator and honestly tell them his problem. If there is no solution as BAM cannot compromise and solve his problem, the last resort is to quit, pay BAM the compensation money and move on as an independent player. Is that simple but i wonder why he choose such an action that put him in a bad light.

BAM might have the best coaches and facilities in the world but yet they have the lousiest support system (psychological/environment & living) for the players.

[huangkwokhau]

I was fortunate to get better story why TCS quits....