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  1. jchan23

    jchan23 Regular Member

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    again this is a really sad question but i don't get good rotation down, like..i've never really recieved any formal training so whenever i partner up with a random partner it always goes awry

    i was led to believe that defense is left/right, offensive is front back but even though i know that and do that, i'm still seein alot of points being lost to rotation

    any tips?

    btw thanks a bunch
     
  2. Linus

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    I played with random partners in our group too. If everyone used to play MD, then I do expect everyone generally know what to do on court.

    There are some useful suggestions though:
    (1) Trust your partner and donot try to get to every shot yourself. The fact is you cannot cover the whole court yourself in a double game.
    (2) Communicate if you are not sure. Some common terms such as "Yours!", 'Mine!", "Let!", "Square!", "Out!" do help to facilitate understanding on court.
    (3) Know your responsibility. For example if you are in front in an attack formation, then you are expected to cover the net, kill any lose return and block the drive if possible. This helps to minimise misunderstanding.

    If you know all your partners well know, do discuss some of the mistakes post-match (admit it if it is your fault!). We all learn from our mistakes.

    If you are really partnering different stranger week in week out, then I guess the minimum you can do is to play your part properly and expect the same from your partner.

    Hope this help.
     
  3. DinkAlot

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    Also, don't forget, even if you know how to rotate, doesn't mean your random partner does. They usually don't, unless they are advanced players.
     
  4. gsloh

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    I think the most important bit here is communication - speak to your partner beforehand to agree your strategy beforehand and don't be afraid to shout during the game :D
     
  5. stumblingfeet

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    One tip is to smash in your partner's general direction to maximize his effectiveness. For example, if you're off to one side and your partner is in front in the middle, a shot down the alley will not be too effective since he'll have trouble getting to a block to the net. Let your partner know you're doing this, so he can adjust his position based on what's a good shot for you, and you can adjust your smash to maximize his effectiveness.

    Another thing would be to take the net aggressively. When one partner goes to the net, and stays there, the other one usually figures out he should go to the back.
     
  6. Athelete1234

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    If they're doing drops from the back, cover, the front, if they're stuck in the front, cover, the back, etc. Just cover what they don't. But make sure you're communicating. Poor communication leads too racquet clashes, and lost points.
     
  7. jerby

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    You'll be amazed how easy it is to 'force' somebody into rotating (;))

    if you're in front and your partner gets a lob to his forehand, take an extra step back to your backhand corner (asuming your both righties) and as soon as he smash tell him (don't scream, he'll hear you if you just say it) to go forward.
    if the opponents block straight he should have it in the bag, if they lift/crosslift, you can communicate and make it clear you've got the shot.

    if your partner is int he front it's impossible to get him to rotate (frontplayers make the game! ;))
     
  8. DivingBirdie

    DivingBirdie Regular Member

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    for me it's usually the back guy who initiates a rotation by signalling for a tap in, or simply rushing in after a smash, usually in circumstances where he is getting trouble moving the 2 back corners
     
  9. jerby

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    but that still requires your insight and you stepping back/aside.

    the frontplayer can signal easier to the rearcourt-player ( he's in his field of view)

    But, yeah, I guess it makes everything a lot easier if the two of them know "the system" ;)
     
  10. ibm88

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    most players do not understand rotation so there is a lot of confusion. If both players are right handed then rotation is to the right, vice versa if both players are left handed. If one is left and the other right then there is no rotation. When a player attacks the net, the other player moves to the rear to cover the back. If a bird is hit down the middle then the player with the racquet hand or right hand takes the shot. These are just simple plays and may not apply in advance situations.
     
  11. DivingBirdie

    DivingBirdie Regular Member

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    i think you might have misunderstood what rotation is. I thought rotation could work both ways--- as in both clockwise and anti clockwise, and i think it's definitely not correct to say left/right pairings have no rotation. rotation here refers to a front-back formation being changed to left-right formation, or/and the initially back guy moves to the front, and the front to the back.
     
  12. h4n5ip

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    Hi guys, what about who should take the shoot in the middle during defense from opponent smashing?
    Any good tips? I often see people crashing their racket. I had done that also several time.
     
  13. azabaz_ipoh

    azabaz_ipoh Regular Member

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    someone told me that if both players are right handed, the one who has the shuttle in his/her forehand position should take the bird. the one with the backhand position should let the other one take the shuttle. however, if one is right handed and one is left handed, then...beats me :)
     
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    That's a good tip for both right handed, may be instead of the forehand position take the shot, I prefer backhand position who take the shoot. In my opinion, for the forehand position take the shoot, he/she needs to have more manouver.
    For mix (right and left handed), the key is communication.
    otherwise crashing will come soon.
     
  15. coachgary

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    clashing racquets in smash defence down the middle maybe a sign that both defenders are standing too far forward in the mid court. As a smasher it would be better to test defencesive weaknesses of each defender by smashing at their body, also smashing down th middle gives a higher percentage chance of return as both defenders have a chance to return.
     
  16. DivingBirdie

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    when you have a partner you're used to, a 'consensus' may be reached for shuttles right at the middle......but still, even top players clash.

    For us we'd rather let it drop to the ground than clash, for pros it's other way round
     
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    That's what I am doing it right now, I never take the bird to avoid clash.
    BTW I'd like to improve my double play.
    I think I'll try to communicate, if the clash happen then I will never ever take the bird again.
     
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    i try to stay away from clash prone situation too. but not good for the game because you might lose points doing that :D but i only play for fun, so no need to sacrifice my racket for that. i agree that once you are used to your partner, the communication will get better and you will know each other game style and movements. that will reduce mistakes and clashes considerably. :)
     

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