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    Quote Originally Posted by husaari View Post
    What is supposed to be the right point to measure from? I got about 11 cm measured like this. I use Yonex G3 handle, stripped to wood and replaced either with one thin overgrip (Wilson X-Tra Tack) or towel grip.
    Yes, that's correct measurement noticed from the picture. It seems like 11 cm and maybe one or two mm more. Now please measure also the circumeference of the handle you use with grips on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmilk View Post
    In tennis, I was taught that if you hold the racquet, and you can still fit a finger between the space between your last 3 fingers and the meaty part of your palm, then it's right. Not sure about badminton.
    this is true in tennis. as for badminton, you need the grip size to be loosey...
    this will enable you to sprint the racquet as you grip tight while hitting the shuttlecock. a finger shall can be insert between palm and grip...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drifit View Post
    this is true in tennis. as for badminton, you need the grip size to be loosey...
    this will enable you to sprint the racquet as you grip tight while hitting the shuttlecock. a finger shall can be insert between palm and grip...
    i thought so too

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    well, take a G3, take of the grip, and place an overgrip on the wood.
    take a g5, and stick a replacementgrip on tje existing grip
    take a G4, and stick to overgrips on it.

    the could all be the same diameter...but entirely different..

    not to mention the "doorknob" some people put at the end of their rackets (look at my buttcaps, bulging a lot more than normal) and some don't...I can't play with a thin grip without such a thing, It'd slipp...
    That doesn't stop the quest for ideal grip because when someone would calculate the grip size which should be right for him, he would then make a choice how to reach this size - by putting 3 overgrips or just buying "one G smaller" handle and feel the wood. And of course, if he would prefer ticker handle he would just forget about the equation and this thread and he would say, ok I'm not in accordance with the population average. But I would like such guidance if I were a beginner...

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    Did anyone play with different grip sizes (I mean play not try)? Which did you choose on the end and how big is your hand (see the first page)?

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    I've played with G5 with one overgrip, G5 with 2 overgrips, and G4 with one overgrip. The G5 with 2 grips, and the G4 with one are the best for me; I wear out the G5+1 grip quickly, and get blisters. I haven't measured my hand, but on a piano, my fingers stretch 10 keys, so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athelete1234 View Post
    I've played with G5 with one overgrip, G5 with 2 overgrips, and G4 with one overgrip. The G5 with 2 grips, and the G4 with one are the best for me; I wear out the G5+1 grip quickly, and get blisters. I haven't measured my hand, but on a piano, my fingers stretch 10 keys, so....
    it's easy to measure your hand, see the first page... It would be interesting to know because I use 2 overgrips on G3 and before that I played with just one overgrip but didn't feel comfortable... Is it posible that two G3 handles are of different sizes on different racquets?

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    I need your data to calculate the average grip size (according to the hand size of course). Please measure your hand size (see the picture in the first post) and the circumference of your racquet handle where you holds it.

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    The grip size according to one post for now (thank to Jerby) would be:

    Gs (grip circumference in cm) = h (in cm) 0.74

    where h is the size of your hand, measured as shown on the page 1 of this thread.

    example: you measure your hand h = 12.2 cm ---> Gs = 9 cm ----> =~ G3 grip size!

    Please report your grip sizes and the sizes of your hands to adjust the formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurethatsme View Post
    The grip size according to one post for now (thank to Jerby) would be:

    Gs (grip circumference in cm) = h (in cm) 0.74

    where h is the size of your hand, measured as shown on the page 1 of this thread.

    example: you measure your hand h = 12.2 cm ---> Gs = 9 cm ----> =~ G3 grip size!

    Please report your grip sizes and the sizes of your hands to adjust the formula.
    I guess this formula could be useful, but I do not believe this takes in account overgrip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I guess this formula could be useful, but I do not believe this takes in account overgrip.
    Yes, it does. The result tells you which circumference of the handle could be suitable for your hand and then you can choose appropriate grip size and additional overgrips to obtain this circumference. For example, you get 9 cm from formula - this can you get by:
    G3 with original grip on and no overgrip or
    G4 with 1 to 2 overgrips or
    G5 with 2 to 3 overgrips (probably to much overgrips)
    So in this case I would choose G4.

    I, personally, get from formula 8.5, so mine handle would be optimal with G4 or G5 with additional overgrips.

    BUT: this formula is based on Jerbys data of HIS hand and therefore would be very useful to rich this data pool with YOUR measurements and your handle sizes, so the formula would be more statistically significant and widely useful!

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    Is the formula a subtraction? It seems that way, but the way it's been presented looks confusing.

    Also, I still do not quite believe that it does properly factor overgrip unless some more clarificaiton is needed. I bascially end up with a G2 if the palmn is measure at the bend line if the palmn wasn't bend, and G3 if it is. The other issue is, the G5, saids 2 to 3 overgrips, however I'm using G5 with 1 overgrip which suits me just fine

    I believe some more clarification on the form of measure is needed.
    Last edited by Matt; 08-25-2007 at 11:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Is the formula a subtraction? It seems that way, but the way it's been presented looks confusing.

    I believe some more clarification on the form of measure is needed.
    A subtraction? Sorry, I don't know what do you mean by that. It's simple:
    y = kx + n
    since there is only one (Jerby) who gave his data. Therefore, n becomes 0, so:
    y = kx
    k=0.74 (you can recalculate his data from page 1 by yourself), therefore
    Gs (grip size) = h (hand) 0.74

    I chose Jerby's data also because his choice of the grip size according to his hand size seems reasonable.

    If someone would give his data, the formula would change to:
    Gs = h k + n
    and it would be more reliable than in this one-data form. In current form you acctually get, which feeling Jerby like at his racquet (excluding softness and surface characteristics - just circumference)

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Also, I still do not quite believe that it does properly factor overgrip unless some more clarificaiton is needed. I bascially end up with a G2 if the palmn is measure at the bend line if the palmn wasn't bend, and G3 if it is.
    You have to measure the circumference with your overgrip on, on ready-to-go racquet. You measure your palm like in the picture bellow (notice h).


    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    The other issue is, the G5, saids 2 to 3 overgrips, however I'm using G5 with 1 overgrip which suits me just fine.
    Of course you don't have to put 2-3 overgrips on G5. I said that only for that example, where the calculation of Gs would be 9 cm (so your hand in this case must be 12.2 cm). If you use 1 overgrip on G5, I can assume that your hand size is approximatelly 11 cm, unless you prefer extremely thin grips...

    I know, that some prefer big and some thin handles, but the choice of the grip size (handle size) depends on the gripping technique. If you want to use your finger power properly (see the picture) you should choose somewhere around h0.75, but if you hold your racquet very firmly and full in the palm (like I did till now - no use of fingers but stronger use of forearm), you will choose bigger grip size like h0.83 or more.

    If you have some more questions, please, don't hesitate... I realy want to get this formula, but I need your data (hand size, circumference of your ready-to-go racquet and maybe you should tell, how do you hold your racquet - if you use your fingers like in the picture bellow or you hold it full in your palm)

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    Ok thanks for the clarification. I will have the data later on in the afternoon since I have to go out very soon.

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    11.5cm = hand measurement

    grip circumference = 72mm aka 7.2cm (racquet 1)
    g4 sized grip, stripped to the wood then 1 layer of tournagrip
    grip circumference =11.2cm (racquet 2)
    g3 sized grip, stripped to the wood then 1 layer of supergrap

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    What would be the purpose of this data? I don't see it pointing out much else other than:

    small hands - small grip
    big hands - big grip
    medium hands - medium grip

    Coming up with these sorts of ergonomic relationships are really more for legislative purposes rather than actually optimizing the user-tool interface.

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    11.5 cm
    Using Yonex G5 with 1 yonex strong grip.

    Note: but I don't even know if G5 is suitable or not. Seems not much difference between G5 and G4.

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