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    well, it would certainly take time....

    just like going from natural gut to nylon strings... Not everybody liked it at first, they felt dead and riggid.
    But cost-effectiveness and resistance to the elements amde it survive.

    with shuttles, if it's more durable and cost-effective, eventually we'll have almost no choice.

    but for now, plastic suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    well, it would certainly take time....

    just like going from natural gut to nylon strings... Not everybody liked it at first, they felt dead and riggid.
    But cost-effectiveness and resistance to the elements amde it survive.

    with shuttles, if it's more durable and cost-effective, eventually we'll have almost no choice.

    but for now, plastic suck
    amen to that ... long live the geese ...

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    I though the geese usually get killed before the feather was plucked... Or do they???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmilk View Post
    That's the special NGP shuttle! It will be significantly pricier. I nearly forgot, the shuttle also extracts precipitation out of the air and humidifies itself accordingly.
    yes, if u r in INA or MAL. Here where i live, the air suck the moisture out of our steamed shuttles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsloh View Post
    Nope - it's potassium that fireballs when in contact with water (still remember how cool that was in chemistry classes!) Magnesium is stable in atmospheric conditions as it has a protective oxide layer. It does react when submerged in water, although only to the extent of forming bubbles rather than a fireball.

    back to the shuttle, besides cutting through strings, the other worry is for taking someone's eyes out!

    I think the graphite/carbon fibre shuttle could be plausible - these could form the core(vertical bit) of the individual feather - while the soft bits at the side would need to be made out of a softer material.
    sodium does it slightly better
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY7mT...elated&search=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamzz View Post
    hmmmm, isn't magnesium the one that flares up upon contact with water?
    i reckon sweat would make the shuttle fly like a burning fireball, which would be cool though not very practical.
    keep us up to date on the progress of that metal shuttle if you hear anything!
    The magnesium flares up whenit touchs a flame. Just remember to shield your eyes if you decide to do that lol. I remembered this in science class.

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    maybe not metal. maybe a mixture of silk and fiber and we can get a substance that is similar to feather goose. something like the material used for the bullet proof jacket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azabaz_ipoh View Post
    maybe not metal. maybe a mixture of silk and fiber and we can get a substance that is similar to feather goose. something like the material used for the bullet proof jacket.
    then it's cheaper to play with dead bird stuffs and tree parts.

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    not if it is synthetic silk. and maybe there are other fibres that could be used. plus, if it lasts longer than feather shuttle, it will actually be cheaper in the long run.

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    kevlar? bullet proof shuttles! I believe part of the problem with 'synthetic' shuttles lies in the quill or vane part of the feather. Finding the right balance between something durable yet soft to get the right properties.

    On another note, have you ever notice how on feather shuttles the feathers are at the very edge of the shuttle where as on synthetics there's a significant step inward where the skirt connects. Could this be an issue why their is such significant difference in performance?

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    archery used to use feather as the guide for the arrow but now they use plastic feather fletcher. well, all i am saying is, it could be done. nothing is really impossible, impractical maybe, but not impossible.

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    another thing that came to mind while i was showering was the elastic properties of plastic vs the feather, they are not close at all, at least not for the vane portion.

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    one man can already fly without planes.
    http://www.jet-man.com/actuel.html#

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    he is the plane. he strap a jet and wing onto his back, essentially he's the aeroplane. cockpit is his head, and other limbs are the movement controller

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    The biggest problem with synth shuttle is how to connect the shaft and feather. These 2 have different property. Scientists can make shaft very close to the real shaft and 10X mor durable. They also can make feather just like real one. It is the prob with putting 2 together and work as good as real feather and cheap enough to produce it. The biggest issue is the glue. In real feather, the shaft and feather are grow into and connected in molocule level. While if you make a synth feather, you need to glue 2 pieces together. How do you apply very small amount of glue and hold the 2 pieces together? That is the problem.

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    I wonder if the manufacturers really want a magical shuttle that never needs replacing (or less often). They must make quite a bit of money selling those tubes of feathers...

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    Well, sooner or later, all feather ones will disappear and become extinct. It's the trend. Badminton is the only sport left in the world that still uses parts of animals for equipments. As time goes on, the price of feather goes up as well. At the end, the feather shuttles will not be affordable. According to my estimation, nylon shuttles will have larger market share than feather ones before 2010, and it can't be stopped.

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