Initial thoughts post.... Victims: YY CAB30MS 3UG4: Ashaway MP at 22 x 24.2 lbs (2 piece string job) YY CAB20SP 2UG5: Ashaway PG65 at 24 lbs (NGP 1 piece string job) A little about myself: -Been playing badminton since i've been 12. -My first racket was a Black Knight Zip Oval racket. 2nd Racket used: Black knight Rapier pro oval racket 3/4/5: Black Knight M-2010 6: YY Ti-10 2U G4 (old pre-2004 version) 7/8: Yonex MP 99 3UG5 9/10/11/12: My "goto" racket the CAB30MS 3UG4 that i use for both singles and doubles. -I love oval -I play badminton primarily in Toronto (feather) and in Vancouver whenever i'm back visiting family First impressions of CAB20: - Noticed some axial twist in the 2nd cross from top in the CAB20 SP with PG65 that NGP strung...tsk tsk...If Pete saw that he'd have an ulcer... Maybe i should take a pic . - I initially used the racket for a warm up doing, drives, clears, back court drops and some light smashes. - I immediately noticed that my recovery in between drives was very slow. - Smashes were all off and hit off-centre cause the timing is totally different then that of a CAB30. As a result i could not get a lot of power - I believe my assessment of the racket may also be skewed cause of the the PG65 string. I was not a fan of it. Didn't feel/respond right. - This racket will take A LOT of time to get used to since i'm so used to the CAB30. -it's definately heavier and feels stiffer to the cab 30. Double's game x 2: - My swing speed is a slug compared to the cab30ms. - offense to defense recovery was slow. - Due to the lack of timing and me not able to harness the power of the cab20 i was forced to play a non-attacking and smashing style doubles game. - I was pleased with the control that i had when placing my drops and attacking clears. Yet to test: -YY CAB20SP 2UG5: Ashaway MP at 24 lbs (NGP 1 piece string job) -Will eventually need to play more doubles games and definately MANY singles games with this beast.. I'm considering it to be a good training racket since it should strengthen my wrists. Next test: hmm.. minimum 2 weeks from now....maximum: 1 month from now Why? 1-Tournament coming up this weekend...no time to mess with new rackets. 2-Will be in Vancouver for a week for my sister's wedding and will be playing some baddy at VRC with my BK-M2010s which i have sort of retired and neglected now that i use the CAB30s. 3-my club is closed from aug 10 - sept 11. 4-I will make use of that break to recharge my batteries and play some beach vball to enjoy the view . Cheers!
I felt similar problems when I tried the CAB21 SP. Couldn't get the swing properly, couldn't smash. I recall the CAB30MS was much easier to adjust to after using my MP100, AT500, AT700. Hopefully you'll update us when you're able to unlock the potential of the CAB20 SP.
I sure hope so.. a note to all that read this..This was NOT a racket that i could just simply pick up and start playing well with. Honestly... you need to be a "real man" or a NGP to handle this beast b/c it is not forgiving. You will get punished if you don't hit the bird right. Hopefully this racket will force me into some good habits (i.e..racket up) and refine subtle details in my game while strengthening my wrist at the same time. As for now...long live the CAB 30 MS 3UG4!
Yes, long live the King. Viva Cab30MS. I love the Cab30ms since the first day I get it. I had Cab20ms before Cab30ms. The adjustment was min. It took me a long time to adj from NS8K from Cab30ms. Cab30ms is the best IMHO.
"if" (hopefully never) yonex ever discontinues the CAB30...all us crazy cab30 fans will do a large bulk purchase (LB, Silent, Fish, Me....) Lucky for us...all the young guns prefer their armortecs and nanospeeds which leaves more cabs for us!
For what? PG65 twists period, if you pre-string, takes time to get it not to twist. Though you, Eepak, PeteLSD and Cooler string for perfection, I do not because that takes longer than I want. I break strings every week so a little axial twist doesn't bother me.
This is a good example of how people are different. For me, the Cab20 is way more powerful than the Cab30 which is like a toothpick for me. My timing is much better with the 20, again the 30 is too light; and flexy. So, everyone's different. And you're lucky, you got the lighter ones. If you tried my heavy 106gram one...you'd...
The Cab 20 SPs I have are more demanding than the Cab 21 US I had. The Cab21 was easier to swing and move because it was 5+ grams lighter (still 2U) and then thin shaft made it cut through the air a bit better. Also the 21 was a bit more flexy.
Ha ha ha...so what did i do after i got home and finished my errands....cut the PG65 string... I did the sound pitch test (hit cab 20 strings against the CAB 30 and vice versa) My cab 30 had a month old string job of Ashaway MP @ 24lbs (~22 lbs now). The cab 20 had a real low pitch. The PG65 felt loose when i play tested it and pressed against the string. The sound pitch test confirmed my hunch that the string lost tension fast enuf that I would guess that it was barely 20lbs. (crank vs drop weight???? ) HOWEVER, the CAB 20 strung with Ashaway MP was definately more comparable in pitch to my cab30 (about a pound less). I will have to play test with this racket to get a better assesment. In the mean time I will string the other cab 20 with the same MP string but with my machine so that i can at least isolate as many variables as i can.
Wrong! The PG65 naturally loses tension fast. I didn't pre-stretch it either; and it's reflected in my string review. So BOOOO to your drop weights!
I must say though, the first time I tried MicroPower 0.66 was strung on my AT500 that I was teaching a friend to string. This is back when I had the Laserfibre. Needless to say, it took him about 3 hours on a dropweight, plus we had prestretched a little to get rid of the coil. I guess the string was as stretched out as can be, and I liked the string IMMEDIATELY as I played with it. My next two string jobs were MicroLegend, and MicroPower 0.66 with my new Revo and there was about a 2 hour break in before I got extremely comfortable with the string. Not to mention by the time it was broken in, the tension was CONSIDERABLY looser than my AT500 that had about 10 - 15 hours of playing time on it. So what did I do next? I prestretched the MicroPower on my next string job for about 3 minutes with all my might. I liked the stringjob immediately once again. Conclusion: Dropweight = Quality Crank = Speed Electronic = Best of both worlds Ultimate Conclusion: Money will be put aside to save up for an electronic!
Naaaw, no need unless you own a shop or club or are crazy like Pete. I know what I have to do to get the desired tension "I want". But this is string dependent.
experience can trump dropweight, crank and even electronic machines. U have some more to learn my lad
Simply for enjoyment, some people spend thousands of dollars on a home theatre system, it is no different for a stringing machine if you enjoy the process and the outcome. Actually now that I think about it, I'm extremely suprised Dan doesn't already have one.