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    Hello Yoda,
    I dont know how frequent have u travel to Singapore or Malaysia or even to S.E Asia or to China? When u make this comment, it certainly unfair to those genuine suppliers in Spore and Malaysia. There are fakes rackets at many places but I would prefer to buy YY rackets in Singapore rather than other places because of the genuine stuff I will get there. Please dont make sweeping statement in this case. U are implying shops in Spore and Malaysia are selling fake stuff.
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    Hello People

    I've ordered a Armortec 900T and have been looking through the forums for information and have noticed a pattern emerging.

    All the people whose rackets seem to break are from Asia and specifically Maylasia and Singapore. My theory is that you all have fake rackets. You pay through the nose for crap because in those countries its not very well regulated and there are no trading standards.

    People will sell you a fake racket because they make more money which they need to feed their family. Unlike in the UK where people don't need to work and the company who sells it to you will get alot of grief for selling you crap.

    No offense

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    Master Yoda = Charv ....no need to work ..?!!!!

    Guys..seriously just ignore this useless individual....he probably does not even know how to play badminton at the first place...!!

    Hahahahahaaaaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athelete1234 View Post
    I think you should keep your smartass comments to yourself and do a bit more research in the ways of how Asian countries operate economically before you make any more stupid comments like that. I could name a thousand ways to get fakes in UK, but does that make the UK a country who cannot even control it's economy even though it's one of the major "western powers"? I think not. And don't think that adding "no offense" to your statement will make that garbage you wrote look any better and less offensive.

    I have travelled to many ASIAN countries and the fakes business is a big part of the economy. The UK and no other country can completely control the market but the companys in the UK are alot more likey to be taken to court than in Asia because we expect better and have the cash to do so.

    Cheers for saying it was a smart comment, you lot haven't realised it and have been chatting about it for god knows how long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notnimdab729 View Post
    Hello Yoda,
    I dont know how frequent have u travel to Singapore or Malaysia or even to S.E Asia or to China? When u make this comment, it certainly unfair to those genuine suppliers in Spore and Malaysia. There are fakes rackets at many places but I would prefer to buy YY rackets in Singapore rather than other places because of the genuine stuff I will get there. Please dont make sweeping statement in this case. U are implying shops in Spore and Malaysia are selling fake stuff.
    Lee

    The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Yoda View Post
    I have travelled to many ASIAN countries and the fakes business is a big part of the economy. The UK and no other country can completely control the market but the companys in the UK are alot more likey to be taken to court than in Asia because we expect better and have the cash to do so.

    Cheers for saying it was a smart comment, you lot haven't realised it and have been chatting about it for god knows how long.
    I think that you're really being arrogant, ignorant, and rather racist.
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    I can see by all your defensive reactions that in your minds you know I'm right and your all in denial. Just shows there's alot of screwed up people out there.

    Glad I've made you all think for once and have sparked a healthy debate
    Would the major badminton stores sell fakes ? Not so likely.
    And why do the sponsored pros carry so many racquets during tournaments ? That's because they do quite often break their racquets, though they're definitely real.
    Here's a quote from one of your posts in a different thread:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...107#post689107
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    the professionals have real ones because they are sent direct from Yonex
    If the companies in the UK are likely to take action about their counterfeit products because they 'expect better' and 'have the cash to do so', how about the Asian companies such as YONEX ?
    Yonex obviously has much more money than any other brands in the world, so why dont they take actions about all the fake products in Asia that you mentionned about ?

    The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.
    Real Yonex salesmen would just import their goods directly from Japan.. If they're 'corrupted by criminal gangs', they wouldnt be 'real sales people from yonex'.

    One day when your own genuine racquet breaks, you'll find out that real ones do really break. >_>
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    I can see by all your defensive reactions that in your minds you know I'm right and your all in denial. Just shows there's alot of screwed up people out there.

    Glad I've made you all think for once and have sparked a healthy debate

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    Angry fake rackets.

    Hello Master Yoda,
    Have u been to Singapore? Do u know Singapore have very strict laws and rules against piracy. If you said some countries in Asia do sell fake rackets, then it will sound likely. But when u said specially Malaysia and Singapore do, then I think u have not done yr investigation thoroughly before u conclude.Do u want to set up a shop here to sell fakes and see whether u can get busted or not
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    The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhirata View Post
    I think that you're really being arrogant, ignorant, and rather racist.

    Would the major badminton stores sell fakes ? Not so likely.
    And why do the sponsored pros carry so many racquets during tournaments ? That's because they do quite often break their racquets, though they're definitely real.

    If the companies in the UK are likely to take action about their counterfeit products because they 'expect better' and 'have the cash to do so', how about the Asian companies such as YONEX ?
    Yonex obviously has much more money than any other brands in the world, so why dont they take actions about all the fake products in Asia that you mentionned about ?


    Real Yonex salesmen would just import their goods directly from Japan.. If they're 'corrupted by criminal gangs', they wouldnt be 'real sales people from yonex'.

    One day when your own genuine racquet breaks, you'll find out that real ones do really break. >_>
    First of all you obviously don't know what being racist is. Being racist is taking the piss out of people for being a certain race. Its not racist describing the reality of what goes on in other countries.

    Secondly I didn't mean the companies taking yonex to court, I mean't the customers taking the company to court.

    3rd, if you have a policeman who is corrupt it doesn't mean he isn't a real policeman does it? The same applies for Yonex dealers, they can still be corrupt.

    4th, Badminton stores would not knowly sell fakes

    5th pros break rackets alot easier because their tension is so high

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notnimdab729 View Post
    Hello Master Yoda,
    Have u been to Singapore? Do u know Singapore have very strict laws and rules against piracy. If you said some countries in Asia do sell fake rackets, then it will sound likely. But when u said specially Malaysia and Singapore do, then I think u have not done yr investigation thoroughly before u conclude.Do u want to set up a shop here to sell fakes and see whether u can get busted or not
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    Yeh and possession of smack gets you executed but it doesn't stop people from doing it does it? Despiration!!!!!!!!!!

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    First of all you obviously don't know what being racist is. Being racist is taking the piss out of people for being a certain race. Its not racist describing the reality of what goes on in other countries.
    My bad. You were commenting as if the Asian countries /and some of the people there were 'bad'. Some of which you said were true, but really.. you were like looking down upon some Asian countries.

    4th, Badminton stores would not knowly sell fakes
    That can be likely.
    5th pros break rackets alot easier because their tension is so high
    Exactly. The people here broke their racquets probably due to the same reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhirata View Post
    Spam. The last time I heared someone say that was by a 11 year old kid.

    Was that by one of your classmates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Yoda
    Was that by one of your classmates?
    Yes, a long time ago.

    Lets get back to the main topic: Armortec 900 Technique, and get an administrator to get rid of these pointless debates.

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    [quote=jhirata;689133]My bad. You were commenting as if the Asian countries /and some of the people there were 'bad'. Some of which you said were true, but really.. you were like looking down upon some Asian countries.

    There are bad people all over the world in every country, I'm not racist, I am actually half Chinese myself and have throughout my teenage years suffered alot of racism. I would never be racist to anyone because I know what its like to be on the receiving end.

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    Master yoda,

    I suggest you start a new thread and not continue here or in my thread..

    thanks you....

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    I own an Armortec 900T myself, and it is definitely a great racket that fits me perfectly in my game... it performs well, and with 24lbs tension and lots of care from me, I do expect it to last for a long time(consider my percentage of mis-hit is quite low).

    Regarding "Master Yoda"... I always thought I am arrogant, and can be quite ignorant at times, but this guy is a level above me in both departments... Some Asian countries may not be as well regulated and etc, but that does not mean all aspect of them are messed up.

    Even Lin Dan broke his racket(I mean it was completely broken!!!) during the final of World cup 2006 against Chen Yu... thus it was the impact of his smash that broke the racket, and not due to a mis-hit.

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    @Master Yoda- Stop being a troll. You know it yourself that there are authorized Yonex dealers in Asia, and you know there are fake sellers in the UK. So don't even reply to this message; just stop making so many uninformed and stupid comments, and just drop the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I have the international catalogue, provided by a Yonex authorized dealer.

    To answer your question, it is posted on Yonex’s website. The question is, are you looking at the correct Yonex website?
    I'm looking at the Yonex.com website...is that not their correct website?

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