Victor Power Waves 12 or Victor Super Nano 5

**rexlu** · 08-17-2007, 06:15 PM

Which one is better, or is there a better Victor?
thanks

**Omegamiko** · 08-17-2007, 06:34 PM

That's completely up to the player.

The Power Waves 12 is currently one of Victor's top of the line rackets, and is overrall a heavy offensive racket. It is the more expensive of the two.

The Super Nano 5 is an offensive all-around racket. The swing speed is much faster IMO.

Currently, I can tell you that the Super Nano 5 is one of the more popular rackets at the shop, but that could be due to price, differing player preferences, etc etc. Best way to find out for yourself is to demo them.

**Jasonvan** · 08-17-2007, 08:00 PM

Why don't you also consider the Superwaves 31 or 32 also...

**roller** · 08-18-2007, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Omegamiko

The Super Nano 5 is an offensive all-around racket. The swing speed is much faster IMO.

Was very impressed by the power of Nano 5 when I saw Thai player Suket jumpsmash with this racket during the Singapore Open. When I tested my friend's Nano 5, i could not get used to it. I guess its the player, not the racket

**2007fp** · 08-19-2007, 10:32 PM

Power Wave 11 and 12 is head heavy
SuperWave 32 and 31 is more like head light
Super Nano 5 is heavier than PW 12 and more flexible.

**DinkAlot** · 08-19-2007, 10:57 PM

The PW12 is not head heavy nor is it a heavy offensive racket. It's more of a balanced to moderately head heavy, all-around racket that's good in all aspects. But it's no hammer.

Also, it's on the stiff side but not extremely stiff.

**bic33** · 08-19-2007, 11:39 PM

for the person who started this thread... please state you body size and height... it was a factor in Dink's comment... lol

**DinkAlot** · 08-19-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by bic33

for the person who started this thread... please state you body size and height... it was a factor in Dink's comment... lol

It does not have anything to do with body size and height.

I purchase nine PW12s. They were all between 85.5-87.5 grams. Compared to all the other rackets I have tested, they are of average weight and balance.

If you compare the PW12 to 5U headlight rackets, then OK, the PW12 is a hammer.

**Omegamiko** · 08-20-2007, 01:30 AM

The PW12 is no hammer maybe, but it is definitely not exactly effortless to swing. It has quite a bit of swing-weight burden for the average.

**DinkAlot** · 08-20-2007, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Omegamiko

The PW12 is no hammer maybe, but it is definitely not exactly effortless to swing. It has quite a bit of swing-weight burden for the average.

Are you talking 2U or 3U? Because the 3U ones I had were average to swing compared to all the similar 3U rackets that I have tried. The only thing that makes the PW12 in 3U more demanding is, it's above average stiffness.

**Omegamiko** · 08-20-2007, 02:44 AM

Both of them are quite stiff, and the Victor box-shape cut frame, while providing facial stability, gives it more-than-normal air resistance compared to other offensive rackets like the Yonex Ti-10, which is on average heavier, but (IMO) has a faster and less demanding swing speed and swing weight.

**DinkAlot** · 08-20-2007, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Omegamiko

Both of them are quite stiff, and the Victor box-shape cut frame, while providing facial stability, gives it more-than-normal air resistance compared to other offensive rackets like the Yonex Ti-10, which is on average heavier, but (IMO) has a faster and less demanding swing speed and swing weight.

Have you even tried the PW12?

The Ti-10 in 3U (forget 2U) is noticeably more demanding than the PW12.

But to each his own.

**Omegamiko** · 08-20-2007, 03:46 AM

Yes, the shop I work at is a local Victor Dealership, I use both the PW 11 and PW 12 regularly. The 3U Ti10, is much faster to swing down, although it is quite difficult to generally maneuver, whereas both the PW's seem to have a lot of air resistance, making them overall rather difficult to swing. That's not just my opinion either, I hear a lot of the same comments from the local club players, and either they're all very spoiled by Yonex rackets, or just not many people find the rackets easy to get used to.

The Super Nanos on the other hand are quite easily well liked rackets here. They feel more natural. Despite the Power Waves being the new series here in the states (the Super Waves have not been imported yet, although we're waiting on them) I regret to say that they are noticeably less popular.

**-Silver-** · 08-20-2007, 08:28 AM

I like PW12. The feeling is quite good though is quite stiff to my liking but compare to my other racket. It still pack a punch.

**DinkAlot** · 08-20-2007, 09:57 AM

Again, we have a difference in experience. I find the PW12 easier to swing and maneuver than the Ti10 as do 3-4 local players (that I know) that own the racket. These players range from Level D+ to B. Their power is between average to good.

Thanks for the info on the SW rackets, I've been wondering about them.

Originally Posted by Omegamiko

Yes, the shop I work at is a local Victor Dealership, I use both the PW 11 and PW 12 regularly. The 3U Ti10, is much faster to swing down, although it is quite difficult to generally maneuver, whereas both the PW's seem to have a lot of air resistance, making them overall rather difficult to swing. That's not just my opinion either, I hear a lot of the same comments from the local club players, and either they're all very spoiled by Yonex rackets, or just not many people find the rackets easy to get used to.

The Super Nanos on the other hand are quite easily well liked rackets here. They feel more natural. Despite the Power Waves being the new series here in the states (the Super Waves have not been imported yet, although we're waiting on them) I regret to say that they are noticeably less popular.