11-19-2009, 09:59 AM #18
all the drive serves in that video look legal to me. Even the drive serves that the speaker in the video is claims may be called a fault by a service judge is still legal by the new definition in 9.1.6 - that is, the serve at 00:34. If you inspect the serve that speaker claims "may be faulted," the shaft is slightly pointing downwards at the instance of contact. Thus, it is legal as well - even though the shaft is almost horizontal in that video.
01-20-2010, 04:56 AM #19
9.1.5 the whole shuttle shall be below the serverís waist at the instant of being hit by the serverís racket. The waist shall be considered to be an imaginary line round the body, level with the lowest part of the serverís bottom rib;
Is this still intact?
Because watching this clip i'm sure the shuttle is being hit higher than the waist line or bottom rib.
01-20-2010, 10:23 AM #20
[quote=Playful-Wind;1349703]9.1.5 the whole shuttle shall be below the serverís waist at the instant of being hit by the serverís racket. The waist shall be considered to be an imaginary line round the body, level with the lowest part of the serverís bottom rib;
Is this still intact?
It's still the same, it's just that the shoulders are sometimes raised higher creating an illusion of hitting it higher than the bottom rib.
01-20-2010, 11:11 PM #21
I have heard from a young friend competing in a competition in Singapore that the service judges fault players for moving their arms in the course of service. In detail, they(the judges) fault players who move their racquet forearms whilst serving the shuttle, and their(the judges) interpretation of the service rules is that the players who serves should move only the wrist parts of his/her racquet arm. I find no rules describing this interpretation but is this true of service plays during official competitions?
01-21-2010, 05:13 AM #22
The danger could be that when trying to make a serve, more so for a flick serve, the player hits the shuttle higher than allowed in the rules. It could be the hand holding the shuttle moves higher thus resulting in the player striking it at a higher point.
01-21-2010, 11:48 AM #23
Wrist flick and forearm movement/rotation (no elbow movement though) is alright when serving.
01-21-2010, 11:54 AM #24
01-21-2010, 12:11 PM #25
Umpires should not only read them but master them. Players must play to win and not worry about contextual rules!
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01-21-2010, 09:52 PM #26
Yes, you must read and understand the badminton rules or laws.
Umpires need not be badminton players and certainly need not master the various techniques of playing a stroke.
01-21-2010, 11:42 PM #27
But of course, understood! However, how many pro players give away their shots prior? By way of giving too much (away) untoward movement that leads to their shots being read?
01-23-2010, 08:45 AM #28
hi guys. i need some advice. due to some players "smashing" back a return for backhand low serve, i tried to break my serve into 2 parts - 1) a quick pull back and stop for abt half a second, and 2) serve. is that a service fault?
01-24-2010, 12:08 PM #29
Can anyone shed some light on these question for me please?
1. As the player serves he/she drops the shuttle making sure it meets the waist line/below ribs during the drop and then striking the shuttle.
Is this correct or is it, that the racket has to be struck with the shuttle firmly grasped.
2. While serving, the other player on the serves team must be behind the server and in the centre or is it he can be anywhere as he/she is not serving?
( if possible does anyone know where in the badminton laws it states the players role during serves can't find anything )
Many thanks in advance.
01-24-2010, 01:05 PM #30
01-25-2010, 12:07 AM #31
01-25-2010, 12:15 AM #32
I think there is a lot of confusion because the rules do not go into a lot of detail... so keep this in mind. IF it is not considered a fault then it's legal. Don't need to ask anymore questions unless you don't actually understand what's written.
So the shuttle must be struck under the waist (lowest rib). It does not matter if you're holding it or have thrown it 5 feet up in the air first as long as you strike it under the waist.
As for the servers partner, he/she can be anywhere on the court. with the following kept in mind.
9.5 In doubles, during the delivery of service (Law 9.2, 9.3), the partners may take up any positions within their respective courts, which do not unsight the opposing server or receiver.
As for the pause between backward and foreward movement..
9.1 In a correct service:
9.1.1 neither side shall cause undue delay to the delivery of the service once the server and the receiver are ready for the service. On completion of the backward movement of server's racket head, any delay in the start of the service (Law 9.2), shall be considered to be an undue delay;
Last edited by druss; 01-25-2010 at 12:20 AM.
01-25-2010, 01:11 AM #33
01-25-2010, 11:48 AM #34
Excellent reply and prefect proof for those
who will raise question to me Lol .
However i'm not a big fan of the drop the shuttle in midair and then
waiting it to come between waistline/below ribs as they come a bit more faster to me .. like a tennis serve
But theres always a way to stop something
Very grateful for your reply and others.
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