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Thread: Wang Wen
03-02-2009, 03:20 PM #69
Everyone knows that as we all face pressure as we grow older. Having played sports competitively for so many years one of the biggest lessons that I have learned from playing sports is learning how to deal with pressure and over coming challenges that you face on the court. Learning how to deal with pressure and challenges was not only beneficial in competing in sports but the greatest benefit was taking these leassons and applying it to life especially for my career ( which has now allowed me to live very comfortably ). As we all know, very very few people will become a professional sports player who earns millions of dollars so as parents we need to encourage our kids that to win or to become good in sports they must learn to adapt to pressure, learn from challenges and change to meet these challenges, but most of all they must learn to do this with integrity, humility and respect. The total goal of sports as I feel is to learn life lessons that will apply to your future. If my children learn this from playing sports and apply it to their future goals and career then I feel my children will have gained more than just medals but life lessons as well. The sad thing is sometimes parents, players and coaches lose sight of this and the people who pay the price for this the most is the kids. Sports and education must go hand in hand to ensure that our children's future is our ultimate focus.
03-02-2009, 04:14 PM #70
03-02-2009, 05:02 PM #71
03-02-2009, 07:41 PM #72
funny, i am a junior player playing under wang's coaching in his elite A group and i find everyone is honest to the point of "i saw the shuttle land just out but they werent sure so they'll give the point to me".
judging by the fact that you revived a semi old thread, are you talking about a recent experience at the derrick junior tournament last weekend? or at the glenora junior tournament the same weekend?
03-02-2009, 08:03 PM #73
Last edited by cooler; 03-02-2009 at 08:13 PM.
03-13-2009, 01:16 PM #74
03-13-2009, 03:11 PM #75
Anyway, today's society is all about "pointing finger":
Kids fail in school - teacher's fault
racket broke - stringer's fault
get into an accident - the other driver's fault
lost a match - opponent's fault...
Well, if everyone is really "that perfect" (because it's always others are bad), then I wonder how come we do not have a perfect world yet...
04-08-2011, 06:42 PM #76
I agree with you, there is a lot of pressure coach under Wang. Although I haven't seen Coach Wang's students cheated but I believe it's possible. There was one incident happened in Royal Glenora Junior 2008, the first U12 mixed doubles match of Wang's son was supposed to play against a stronger team from the same club, Wang didn't want his son lost in first round, so he changed the draw, moved the stronger team away from his son's team. This was a 100% true, my friend's kid was playing the same tourney, he still has the original draw set up by Badminton Alberta and the draw that manipulated by Wang. I guess it was the tourney held in his club, he thought he has the powder to change it according to his will.
04-08-2011, 06:55 PM #77
I've known Wang for almost 20 years. He was my coach. So of course my perspective is biased in his favour. However, I think it is completely immature and disrespectful to engage in this kind of talk without providing facts and without real insight into the situation.
The attitude that Wang instilled in us when I was playing was that you can never avoid the better players. If you want to win, and you want that win to be considered legitimate you have to beat all of the best players. Dodging a better player would not help his son and I don't see him doing that anyway.
One thing I can say is that this sort of behaviour (bad mouthing coaches, other players) is something that has gone on for a long time in badminton, and I have no doubt it is very much present in other sports as well. What always irritates me is seeing the parents engaging in it, and therefore teaching their kids these terrible habits. Show some character.
My name is Emmet Gibney, private message me on here and I'd be happy to get in touch with you via phone, email or whatever method you prefer and we can discuss this like adults.
By the way, in tournaments there are often rules in place when making a draw where players from the same club, or sometimes same province (depends on the tournament jurisdiction) are NOT supposed to play each other first round, or sometimes even be on the same side of the draw. Understand the sport before you chime in.
04-09-2011, 01:45 AM #78
Here is the draw, Wang switched team #8 and #11, if he didn't do that, his son would have lost to the event winners in the first round and wouldn't got into final.
I know there are some rules in badminton draw, but the draw set up by badminton Alberta usually check that already. You should know it's hard to avoid the players from the same club to play in the first round, there are less and less players nowadays, and there are only 4 clubs in alberta. If you want to know why he changed it, you better ask Wang and let me know.
04-09-2011, 01:54 AM #79
04-09-2011, 01:55 AM #80
There are more than 4 clubs in alberta (edison, red willow, etc in addition to the 4 big ones), and I think it's understandable that he could ask for a switch. Plus, it is not know whether the draw by Badminton alberta had made an honest mistake in pairing 2 glenora teams against each other in the same round. Normally if it is possible for no team kills in the opening round then the draw is set up such that there is none.
And as emmet said, this is not an issue to take up with Wang but to take up with Jeff Bell
04-11-2011, 03:01 PM #81
It's a joke if you think Wang would consulted Jef Bell before, the first draw was out on Wednesday and Wang changed it on Saturday just before the mixed doubles started. Jeff Bell wasn't at the tournament, only some Glenoral teenagers helping at the draw desk.Do you think someone would able to contact Jeff Bell on Saturday? If you know how draw was made, all the conditions were pre set on the tournament program, usually doubles partners don't play each other in the first round Singles, but it possible to play each other in first round mixed doubles, so in this case, there was no honest mistake.
I don't want to ruin this coach Wang's reputation, it's the fact and my own opinion.
09-09-2011, 10:13 PM #82
How sad that we are arguing about a u12 tournament 3 years after the fact. To set the record straight Ty had trained at the Glenora for 2 years at that point. How much stronger than Desmond he was at the time is debatable. The draw was changed to put the 2 strongest teams on opposite sides of the draw and the 21-19 & 21-17 final shows very closely matched teams. Ty was/is a member of both the Red Willow and Royal Glenora clubs. I personally saw both Jeffs at the tournament in question. Hmm what else? Yes, I've never seen Wang act with anything less than integrity, kindness, and good sportsmanship.
11-14-2011, 03:47 PM #83
Very interesting argument, thanks to bigjohnl, someone was there at the tournament came up and proved that the draw was modified because Wang didn't want his son lost to Ty until it happened in the final.The draw can be changed whatever they want. There is no need to make the draw according to seedings, just changed it until the tournament started. I felt so bad to other players at that draw. No wonder there are less kids playing tournament now, it's could be so corrupt.
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