Thread: LCW's NEW game plan for FUTURE
11-29-2007, 03:25 AM #69
11-29-2007, 03:47 AM #70
Even Peter Gade was upset- the normally cool and calm guy.
As others have posted, Taufik would have walked out immediately. Lin Dan would ranted together with LYB.
Initially I actually thought LCW purposely kicked up a fuss so they would stop it. That's what I would do, pretend to be angry, effected, then lose but actually I'm not bothered. Cant win anyway, then let opponents think one is mentally weak
11-29-2007, 07:19 AM #71
The measurement of one's faculties is how relevant one is but you have lost yours by your wrong arguments. I am like WMC and LCW, we react accordingly - we are all humans and we don't expect to be cheated. If we lost because we were cheated it has nothing to do with controlling your faculties. And as many have argued here, BAO would not be happy knowing there were too many 'assists'.
Last edited by X Ball; 11-29-2007 at 07:21 AM.
11-29-2007, 07:39 PM #72
11-29-2007, 07:59 PM #73
2007 China Open MS Final...revisited...
In the 1st set, from what i counted, there were 2 "questionable/dubious" calls. http://youtube.com/watch?v=kvz_4VrPn4Y
-The first one, which occurred prior to the interval pt, was definitely a wrong call. This was when BCL was shown pointing his fingers/hand and the linejudge awarded the point. They had a replay after that call, but IMO, the shot went out.
-The second one, which occurred right after the interval pt, where LCW was shown holding his hand and finger up while he complained to the umpire. However, it was, IMO, a very questionable call. They had a replay, from directly the top of the court, which showed the shuttle landed on the line.
In the 2nd set, from what i counted, there were 5 "close/questionable/dubious" calls. http://youtube.com/watch?v=jeFBdyNmKVY
-The first one, which occurred prior to the interval pt, was IMO a very questionable call. They had a replay which showed the shuttle landed on the line.
-The second one, which occurred after the interval pt, was IMO a very questionable call. It was a shot on the line & they had a replay of that call.
-The third one, which occurred after the interval pt, was IMO a wrong call. They had a replay and the shuttle seemed to land out (inches away).
-The fourth one, which occurred after the interval pt, was IMO a wrong call. This was when LCW threw his racket and arms in the air in utter disbelief. This call seemed to affect LCW the most, as he took a long time to gather himself back again. They had a replay and the shuttle seemed to land out.
-The fifth one, which occurred after the interval pt, was a very close net kill by LCW, which the umpire awarded the point to LCW. It was a close call. They had a replay.
So, from all of those so called "close/questionable/dubious" calls, i would say, from a neutral point of view, only 3 were called incorrectly. How much of a factor those 3 calls would've changed the outcome, that we won't know for sure. We can only speculate and wonder as to what it could've been, if those calls were called correctly.
Overall, my feeling is that LCW was somewhat frustrated more with how BCL seemed to be able to return and read all of the shots that were thrown at him.
No matter what kinds of shots LCW threw at BCL, BCL seemed to know and anticipate them.
Now, did the linejudges/umpire "cheat" and make incorrect calls **intentionally**??..
As i wrote in another thread, for this particular match, to be fair to LCW and (all of his supporters/fans), and to the many badminton fans worldwide, and to an extent BCL & the CHN Open organizer, those calls **could've** been called better...Personally, i would say LCW is best served to move on and learn from that experience.
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11-29-2007, 08:49 PM #74
The second one, which occurred right after the interval pt, where LCW was shown holding his hand and finger up while he complained to the umpire. However, it was, IMO, a very questionable call. They had a replay which showed the shuttle landed on the line.
Now, try to see it in LCW's perspective ( given in a first person POV) :
1) The opponent had a walkover in the QF stage which is 1 days rest
2) I had to endure a 3 game SF match - the opponent whitewashed his opponent in the other SF in staright sets.
3) The official's is from China - except for the tournament referee
4) I tried to make the opponent tired by rallying the match but he keeps finding the opportunity to make a kill shot.
5) I already ignored the first questionable call, trying to be mentally strong.
6) My girlfriend just became the champion.
7) I'm trailing 11-10 and my knee hurts like hell.
8) And now they said the shuttle was in.
Of course he is frustrated and broken mentally.
Reminds me of LD's frustration in a Malaysian Open final match against LCW in Kuching. (which LCW made a remarkable come back in the rubber game to win).
Same game, different ball park.
11-30-2007, 05:01 AM #75
Wow and you sincerely believe the calls were made without any ill intentions? I can't believe you can go to that extent of denial. But let the conversation end here because seriously "human lies" are prone to happen and neither you or me can proves that you are telling the trues or in pure denial.
11-30-2007, 06:56 AM #76
And like I said earlier unless we do officiating electronically, there are gonna be judgemental calls. Whether there was a conspiracy theory to pull the rug under LCW, this is all speculation.
12-04-2007, 11:21 AM #77
leeChongwei in CO is not the real leechongwei.
wongmewchoo in Co is not the real wongmewchoo.
sometimes,lcw did impressed us with his spirit in a match
sometimes,wmc did dissapointed us with her poor game in a match.
dont judge lcw by a game.
dont flatter wmc by a tournament
wongmewchoo is a miracle in CO.and leechongwei is a failure.thast the fact
but i hope we wont forget,in the next tournament(after the hk open),maybe its leechongwei who will beat world top 4.
and wmc will lose in the first round.
they are just the same.wmc herself sometimes cannot deal with line judges.
for china open ,its just that wmc is better than lcw
dont judge them by a tournament.come on..
want to know how good lcw can be,watch the '06 malaysia open final match.
and 4 '07 china open,wong mew choo is superb.amazing.remarkable.any other words?
12-05-2007, 01:34 AM #78
12-05-2007, 03:39 AM #79
No point arguing over spill milk, the public will never know what happen that day. Is it China really ask the line judge to be patriotic or is it just human emotion to help their own countr or its just simply a mistakes. Something like BIG FOOT legend?
12-06-2007, 06:57 AM #80
Stop giving lame excuses
from nst letter part....wtf!!
Lee Chong Wei should learn to be a gracious loser and give credit to his opponents
FORMER badminton world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei recently sent out a warning to all foreign players about biased officiating at the Beijing Olympics.
This came about following his defeat to Lin Dan in the Hong Kong Super Series men's singles final, which he attributed to unfair officiating.
I watched the live telecast on Sunday. If Chong Wei had played as aggressively as he had done in his first set, trouncing Lin Dan, he probably would have become the Hong Kong Open champion. But, no, he must have thought Lin Dan was rattled by his play and, instead, changed his tactics.
As in previous matches, Chong Wei tried to control play by opting to stroke with Lin Dan. Unfortunately, Lin Dan turned aggressor and, not surprisingly, won the match.
Chong Wei, not for the first time, has offered external excuses for his loss -- the worst was his earlier public complaint about his chief coach.
Now, he has attributed his loss to "a lot of points went in favour of Lin in the final". If I remember well, there were maybe only two dubious calls -- not "a lot of calls" that made Lin Dan the champion.
Dubious line calls are quite common in nearly all games, including tennis and football, and happens everywhere. We in Malaysia are no strangers to these. And if indeed there were "a lot" of wrong calls in his match, the tournament chief referee would have stepped in to change both the umpire and linesman.
While I would rate Chong Wei to be among the top three players in the world today, I think he has yet to mature in his behaviour as a top-class professional badminton player. It's time he grows up and accepts defeat sportingly, and gives credit to his victorious opponents.
On that day, there was no way Chong Wei could have won the second and third sets -- he was outplayed by Lin Dan. He was his own enemy.
It's been a while since we have had a Malaysian singles player at the top of the world's ranking. So I do look forward to seeing Chong Wei up there securely on his own efforts, without any of his opponents having to say: "Chong Wei is up there because he was favoured in his matches by the officials".
12-06-2007, 08:19 AM #81
12-08-2007, 02:42 AM #82
In HK Open final, LCW rarely acknowledges free point from net cords and at one point where his smash landed on Lin Dan, he seemed reluctant to raise his hand to say it was unintentional.
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