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11-20-2007, 05:15 PM #188
11-21-2007, 12:02 AM #189
11-21-2007, 09:11 AM #190
11-22-2007, 05:01 PM #191
but this isn't just a Chinese belief, that people can be sacrificed so the country benefits. for all those who think of westerners as being "civilized", there's a saying in the western world armies. ""The mission before the man". western officers are discouraged from making friends with their own troops. they are to see the soldiers as a disposable tool to getting the job done.
so i don't think it's just a chinese problem. the question really comes down to when it's worth it? in a time of war, then lives are less important than a country's survival. in the olympic finals...maybe...maybe not. it's not really up to us to judge what is more important, and what Li Yongbo did was right or wrong in the 2000 Olympics.
11-24-2007, 10:26 AM #192
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11-25-2007, 09:37 PM #196
11-27-2007, 02:16 AM #197
Who are the champions outside China ?
Last edited by chris-ccc; 11-27-2007 at 02:20 AM.
11-27-2007, 02:35 AM #198
11-27-2007, 02:53 AM #199
Funny that without China, we should be able to see matches with more fighting spirit...
- Korean players were fined for not trying when playing their country man;
- Christian Hadinata not challenging Rudy Hartono in singles;
- Liem Swie King losing to Rudy Hartono in World Championships finals;
- Liem Swie King losing to Icuk Sugiarto in World Championships finals;
Just China? Maybe. Li Yongbo was honest (or stupid depending how each person sees this incident) to admit what he did.
11-27-2007, 03:04 AM #200
LYB is most determined to get 5 GOLD medals for China in Badminton
LYB has let known that he is most determined to get 5 GOLD medals for China in Badminton. So he should be watching the SS Finals with case study and analysis.
11-27-2007, 03:37 AM #201
"Pretend matches" are not good to watch
Yes, most of the complains in the past were mainly directed to matches when players were playing against fellow countryman, as like what happened as posted as POST#1 of this thread.
It is so unfortunate that there are so many good players from China... that we frequently see Chinese players playing against each other or giving WO to each other.
The only complain from us Badminton fans is that some good fighting spirited matches were not played as they should.
"Pretend matches" are not good to watch.
Walkovers matches are even worse... no match to watch.
11-27-2007, 04:40 AM #202
Walking over fellow countrymates is nothing new… but badminton is different from Tennis. Badminton is more country base, where the national team train together while tennis are more individual base where players are profesional are trained by their own coach. But playing dirty is unacceptable, corrupting the linesman… That what we call over did it
11-27-2007, 09:50 AM #203
End The Farce By Bettering Them
As someone (was it bananakid?) said earlier, the solution lies in finding people who can beat Li Yongbo's clutch of players.
Imagine if someone had done a Park Sung Hwan on Bao Chunlai in an earlier round, Li Yongbo wouldn't have had a chance to arange his regular walkovers and easy matches.
But, simply put, that was not to be
And it didn't help at all that Taufik chose to stay away from it all
(At least Lin Dan was spared all the trouble because he got clobbered early )
11-27-2007, 10:25 AM #204
But it seems like a silly argument..
Only if other countries where much superior to players from china, the benefit of wo:s, thrown matches would not be an issue.. Otherwise they would always benefit to do this compared to the other players, that have to fight each match for an "honest" win, even against their countrymen.
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