Li Yongbo ( 李永波 )

[OneToughBirdie]

What LYB did was..not ethical.. but LYB may not be the only one who act alone. He also have a superior to report to.... and that is SUPER Sensitive.

Comes OLY08, match fixing if given an iota of opportunity, LYB would unscrupulously do it without a blink...gold in every event in badminton is a target and this gold eclipse all gold CHN has achieved in any SS, Opens, WC or past OLY, cos' this is the first OLY CHN held and every gold counts for CHN to top the world...wanna know the bonus for LYB if CHN sweep the gold, I can only guess!!

[taneepak]

In the Olympics the gold medal winner gets to stand tall and a gold medal as well, but by far the most important is the playing of the country's national anthem, and nothing beats that.

[Loh]

LYB may not have the luxury to resort to match fixing if someone like Ronald Susilo knocked out his No.1 in Round 1 of the Beijing Olympics.

[OneToughBirdie]

LYB may not have the luxury to resort to match fixing if someone like Ronald Susilo knocked out his No.1 in Round 1 of the Beijing Olympics.

Lightning strikes twice, that's possible, anything possible too...like someone could ko LCW or TH (if he qualifies) in the first round and LD would have an easy path then...I would not bet my $$$ on that happening though...then again, OLY is like a burial ground for #1 ranked MS player, and usually less favorite player won the gold biscuit most if not all the times.

[indra]

Lightning strikes twice, that's possible, anything possible too...like someone could ko LCW or TH (if he qualifies) in the first round and LD would have an easy path then...I would not bet my $$$ on that happening though...then again, OLY is like a burial ground for #1 ranked MS player, and usually less favorite player won the gold biscuit most if not all the times.

Horay....It means Sony Dwi will win Gold

[robin7]

If BWF does not raise issues with LYB match fixing, then all the power to CHN to have this match fixing privilege having abundance of world class players and for LYB to have the power to order a world #1 ranked player to lose out at a stage as big as OLY as in YZY's case, this setup cannot fly in North America or in Europe...on match fixing at OLY where YZY losing to GZC, whether it sound cruel to Western World and honourable to CHN, one thing for sure, a player does not get a chance everyday to win a gold medal at OLY and YZY being world ranked #1 and winner of 2 WC, and being ordered to forfeit her last chance for OLY gold, that must hurt, being a champion the last thing you want to do is throw a match and no wonder she cried and that is damn cruel and not fair to her, and whether CHN, INA or any other nations resort to match fixing that is unfair to this sport as well.

Gong Zhichao and Camilla Martin were victims as well.
Camilla could have possibly been the champion if the game was fair.
Gong could have possibly beaten Ye if they played "sincerely".
The outcome could have possibly been the same if the game was fair and Gong would then be declared as the "true champion".

This is even written in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gong_Zhichao:

"In 2000, she won the gold in the Summer Olympics, defeating Camilla Martin of Denmark in the final. However, her victory in the semifinal was not a fair play. The Chinese Team made a decision that Gong should go into the final, but not Ye Zhaoying, another player from China, because Gong had a better chance to defeat Martin at that time..."

[Oldhand]

LYB may not have the luxury to resort to match fixing if someone like Ronald Susilo knocked out his No.1 in Round 1 of the Beijing Olympics.

Unfortunately, the only player Ronald Susilo is now capable of knocking out is himself

[sonnymak]

China sports official do this all the time. In table Tennis many many years ago they ask their No.1 woman TT player to lose a match to her teammate for the same reason LYB did. She went on to win the match and the title later.

Even though she won the title, they punish her for insubordination by refusing to send her overseas later.

She resigned married a Japanese and went on to play for japan and if I remember won some title in China and was booed, she had to fly off to Japan quickly for safety reasons.

[Loh]

Unfortunately, the only player Ronald Susilo is now capable of knocking out is himself

Wake up Ronald!

Oldhand wants a match with you.
Didn't you beat Chen Jin not too long ago and perhaps BCL too? You still have 10 months more to buck up and astound the badminton world again as you did at the last Olympics! Then LYB will not be able to keep his job!

[cooler]

Comes OLY08, match fixing if given an iota of opportunity, LYB would unscrupulously do it without a blink...gold in every event in badminton is a target and this gold eclipse all gold CHN has achieved in any SS, Opens, WC or past OLY, cos' this is the first OLY CHN held and every gold counts for CHN to top the world...wanna know the bonus for LYB if CHN sweep the gold, I can only guess!!

this only prove that the big wigs above LYB are ok with that, as long as LYB brings home the golds. The motherland groomed, fed, and trained all national players. They are priviliged chinese citizens. If the chinese olympic players don't understand this by now, he/she is mentally inept and would be weeded out. Lots of candidates waiting to get into the national squad. It's not cruel, it's daily life in china.

look at chen hong, zhou mi, wang chen, pi hong, Xu H. They have choices and elected to quit. XXZ chose to stay.

[robin7]

China sports official do this all the time. In table Tennis many many years ago they ask their No.1 woman TT player to lose a match to her teammate for the same reason LYB did. She went on to win the match and the title later.

Even though she won the title, they punish her for insubordination by refusing to send her overseas later.

She resigned married a Japanese and went on to play for japan and if I remember won some title in China and was booed, she had to fly off to Japan quickly for safety reasons.

Her name is He Zhili (何智丽), aka Koyama Chire (小山智丽).

http://books.google.com/books?id=JUv..._-9g#PPA239,M1

[Oldhand]

Wake up Ronald!

Oldhand wants a match with you.
Didn't you beat Chen Jin not too long ago and perhaps BCL too? You still have 10 months more to buck up and astound the badminton world again as you did at the last Olympics! Then LYB will not be able to keep his job!

(Apologies for the OT...)
Did you see Kendrick Lee play Peter Gade and Premyslav Wacha?
It shows how he's playing now (these matches were just last month).
He might go places if he would stop attempting trick shots.
From what I saw, not one of them made it over the net.

[Oldhand]

If not for a ruthless cunning, do you think Li Yongbo would have been around for so long?
In fact, he has outlasted a whole generation of players and coaches.
He has survived several governments and big-bosses too.

LYB subscribes (and brazenly too) to the theory that everything is fair in love, war and badminton.
Years later, very few are likely to remember how the match was won.
But most are likely to remember that it was indeed won.
And also that it was won on Li Yongbo's watch.

For China, only one thing matters - winning.

It's an ugly but effective dogma.
Until the Soviet Union disintegrated, this was their dogma too.
Now the Russians are too busy being corrupt to attend to sports.

If badminton is to be rid of LYB, someone has to beat his players.
Not once, not twice... but with unfailing consistency.

For long, I believed Taufik Hidayat would prove to be LYB's nemesis.
Clearly, that faith was misplaced.
Lee Chong Wei could yet fufill that role.
Can he? Will he?

[Green72(CAN)]

Do you think LYB will use match fixing in the Bei Jing Olympics? If so, who is going to be forced to lose?

In MS, I don't think LD will be forced to lose because he has beaten all the top players before multiple times.

In MD, the only top pair is FHF and CY

In WS, I'm not sure.

In WD, I don't think China needs match fixing here

In XD, I don't think GL and ZB will be forced to lose. I think they're much better than ZYW and XZB.

[cooler]

Do you think LYB will use match fixing in the Bei Jing Olympics? If so, who is going to be forced to lose?

In MS, I don't think LD will be forced to lose because he has beaten all the top players before multiple times.

In MD, the only top pair is FHF and CY

In WS, I'm not sure.

In WD, I don't think China needs match fixing here

In XD, I don't think GL and ZB will be forced to lose. I think they're much better than ZYW and XZB.

i'll tell u all that when u give me the winning numbers for this week lotto 649

[cooler]

If not for a ruthless cunning, do you think Li Yongbo would have been around for so long?
In fact, he has outlasted a whole generation of players and coaches.
He has survived several governments and big-bosses too.

LYB subscribes (and brazenly too) to the theory that everything is fair in love, war and badminton.
Years later, very few are likely to remember how the match was won.
But most are likely to remember that it was indeed won.
And also that it was won on Li Yongbo's watch.

For China, only one thing matters - winning.

It's an ugly but effective dogma.
Until the Soviet Union disintegrated, this was their dogma too.
Now the Russians are too busy being corrupt to attend to sports.

If badminton is to be rid of LYB, someone has to beat his players.
Not once, not twice... but with unfailing consistency.

For long, I believed Taufik Hidayat would prove to be LYB's nemesis.
Clearly, that faith was misplaced.
Lee Chong Wei could yet fufill that role.
Can he? Will he?

well, the critics are looking for excuses why china win because they have exhausted excuses of why their countries lost. Even themself often have said a win is a win unless proven otherwise legally (ex. doping or ban substance). This match fixing of 2000 OG is now just a historical passing. For china and LYB, it doesn't matter whether gongZC or YZY had won gold as long as she was from china.

As Deng Xiao Ping had said:

"No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat."「不管白猫、猫，逮住老鼠就是好猫。」

if that cat don't catch mice, it will be eaten by the owner. As u can see in ZYZ's case, it wasn't cruel at all.

[Han]

well, the critics are looking for excuses why china win because they have exhausted excuses of why their countries lost. Even themself often have said a win is a win unless proven otherwise legally (ex. doping or ban substance). This match fixing of 2000 OG is now just a historical passing. For china and LYB, it doesn't matter whether gongZC or YZY had won gold as long as she was from china.

As Deng Xiao Ping had said:

"No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat."「不管白猫、猫，逮住老鼠就是好猫。」

if that cat don't catch mice, it will be eaten by the owner. As u can see in ZYZ's case, it wasn't cruel at all.

Then you must be the BF version of Li Yongbo