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11-13-2007, 01:32 AM #35
11-13-2007, 01:39 AM #36
In the Olympics the gold medal winner gets to stand tall and a gold medal as well, but by far the most important is the playing of the country's national anthem, and nothing beats that.
11-13-2007, 02:01 AM #37
LYB may not have the luxury to resort to match fixing if someone like Ronald Susilo knocked out his No.1 in Round 1 of the Beijing Olympics.
11-13-2007, 02:07 AM #38
11-13-2007, 02:12 AM #39
11-13-2007, 02:14 AM #40
Camilla could have possibly been the champion if the game was fair.
Gong could have possibly beaten Ye if they played "sincerely".
The outcome could have possibly been the same if the game was fair and Gong would then be declared as the "true champion".
This is even written in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gong_Zhichao:
"In 2000, she won the gold in the Summer Olympics, defeating Camilla Martin of Denmark in the final. However, her victory in the semifinal was not a fair play. The Chinese Team made a decision that Gong should go into the final, but not Ye Zhaoying, another player from China, because Gong had a better chance to defeat Martin at that time..."
Last edited by robin7; 11-13-2007 at 02:20 AM.
11-13-2007, 02:29 AM #41
11-13-2007, 02:33 AM #42
China sports official do this all the time. In table Tennis many many years ago they ask their No.1 woman TT player to lose a match to her teammate for the same reason LYB did. She went on to win the match and the title later.
Even though she won the title, they punish her for insubordination by refusing to send her overseas later.
She resigned married a Japanese and went on to play for japan and if I remember won some title in China and was booed, she had to fly off to Japan quickly for safety reasons.
11-13-2007, 02:41 AM #43
11-13-2007, 02:41 AM #44
look at chen hong, zhou mi, wang chen, pi hong, Xu H. They have choices and elected to quit. XXZ chose to stay.
Last edited by cooler; 11-13-2007 at 02:54 AM.
11-13-2007, 03:05 AM #45
Last edited by robin7; 11-13-2007 at 03:10 AM.
11-13-2007, 03:40 AM #46
11-13-2007, 03:56 AM #47
If not for a ruthless cunning, do you think Li Yongbo would have been around for so long?
In fact, he has outlasted a whole generation of players and coaches.
He has survived several governments and big-bosses too.
LYB subscribes (and brazenly too) to the theory that everything is fair in love, war and badminton.
Years later, very few are likely to remember how the match was won.
But most are likely to remember that it was indeed won.
And also that it was won on Li Yongbo's watch.
For China, only one thing matters - winning.
It's an ugly but effective dogma.
Until the Soviet Union disintegrated, this was their dogma too.
Now the Russians are too busy being corrupt to attend to sports.
If badminton is to be rid of LYB, someone has to beat his players.
Not once, not twice... but with unfailing consistency.
For long, I believed Taufik Hidayat would prove to be LYB's nemesis.
Clearly, that faith was misplaced.
Lee Chong Wei could yet fufill that role.
Can he? Will he?
11-13-2007, 02:28 PM #48
Do you think LYB will use match fixing in the Bei Jing Olympics? If so, who is going to be forced to lose?
In MS, I don't think LD will be forced to lose because he has beaten all the top players before multiple times.
In MD, the only top pair is FHF and CY
In WS, I'm not sure.
In WD, I don't think China needs match fixing here
In XD, I don't think GL and ZB will be forced to lose. I think they're much better than ZYW and XZB.
11-13-2007, 02:34 PM #49
11-13-2007, 02:41 PM #50
As Deng Xiao Ping had said:
"No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat."「不管白猫、猫，逮住老鼠就是好猫。」
if that cat don't catch mice, it will be eaten by the owner. As u can see in ZYZ's case, it wasn't cruel at all.
Last edited by cooler; 11-13-2007 at 02:55 PM.
11-13-2007, 02:57 PM #51
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