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Thread: Li Yongbo ( 李永波 )
11-14-2007, 03:43 AM #86
11-14-2007, 03:50 AM #87
11-14-2007, 03:55 AM #88
From western culture point of view, it's isnt ethical, i'm not arguing wif that. As an engineer who deals with numbers all the times, any bookies would give yzy odd of winning over gzc is less than 50% given gzc's impressive results in 2000. Multiply that the odd of yzy versus CM which is also less than 50%. The odd of yzy beating gzc AND beating CM is very low. What yzy had to give up is not very much. She got a bronze. If lyb wasnt involved, yzy's odd is still a bronze. What lyb did from my prospective is just an insurance policy, just like u buy home insurance knowing full well the chance of your house NOT damaged by natural causes is very high but u bot the insurance anyway.
Last edited by cooler; 11-14-2007 at 04:05 AM.
11-14-2007, 03:56 AM #89
I also don`t like liyongbo because we drove to some hours to see a badminton final and then the two men singles players didnt play due to injury.
6 days later this to players (chinese) play another final of a (much) higher ranked tournament against each other. nobody injured.
@cooler: insurance? id on`t like this in sports.
11-14-2007, 04:08 AM #90
11-14-2007, 04:11 AM #91
not just because of this. But do you know how it feels if you have to loose a match on purpose?
11-14-2007, 04:13 AM #92
11-14-2007, 05:41 AM #93
if u only play if your chance of winning is more than 50 percent, there is no drive to play any more.
11-14-2007, 06:18 AM #94
gosh.... hope not affect alot this match fixing our badminton sport
Hope one day badminton can popular as Tennis & alot of people playing it around the world :-)
11-14-2007, 12:03 PM #95
May the best player win
The practice of asking someone to lose deliberately is definitely wrong. It is not only unethical, but it violates a human right.
If LYB is concerned with the preservation of human dignity, he should not interfere with his players' motivation to play their best. As we say "May the best player win".
It is not proper to set up artificial barriers against a player to win. It will only damage the player's sporting spirit. We should encourage all participants of any sports to play their best each and every time.
I believe that, in any sport, the joy is not based on the winning or the losing, but the joy of the effort we put into it.
Last edited by chris-ccc; 11-14-2007 at 12:12 PM.
11-14-2007, 12:12 PM #96
11-14-2007, 12:15 PM #97
11-14-2007, 12:28 PM #98
If the OG is really fair, do NOT LIMIT the entries per nation. Just let the best of the best fight for the title. If no limited entries, CHN might occupy half the entries, therefore, the chance to gain a gold should be much higher to begin with. Do you think that fair to see WC champion like XXZ and WC runner up like XXF can't even play OG (2004) is fair??? Do you prefer to see XXZ and XXF, or some no name ones who simply come from another nation? Do you think that's fair for XXF and XXZ and CHN team to begin with?
CM might see 15 CHN ladies in OG, instead of some rank 50s players from another nation. Insead of worry about 3 CHN ladies, she might have to deal with 3 or 4 to even reach the final. She will be seriously tested in every single round.
Then, we might see a 4 CHN ladies semi final.
11-14-2007, 12:35 PM #99
WC2003 Champion XXZ and Runner up XXF can NOT even participate. Do you think they are denied for their hardwork, and proven success? The other nation's players and coaches crying for "match fixing", but think twice, they at least get a chance to play, at the cost of much better CHN players, such as XXZ and XXF!
Like I mentioned in preverious thread, if no limited entries, CHN might occupy half of the entries (especially women events) to begin with. Then, the non-CHN players have to face 4-5 CHN ladies to even dream about the finals anyway.
11-14-2007, 12:38 PM #100
11-14-2007, 12:40 PM #101
2. 6 days are a lot. PG was sick, throwing up during flight, sent to hospital in MAS, but came back to win a title after less than 1 week. Should I say he faked the illness just to draw more attention? Obviously not.
11-14-2007, 12:41 PM #102
as Lazybuddy will definitely go after this particular statement with his famous argument... XXZ and XXF didn't even get to play because of some ridiculous limitation to the number of players from one nation... How are you suppose to call it "may the best player win", when the Men's singles world champion could not even participate.
How do you expect XXZ and XXF feel when they know damn well that their Olympic dreams were stolen from them by some rank 100+ players from another country???
Last edited by bananakid; 11-14-2007 at 12:52 PM.
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