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    ok, so that means to smash...we lower our grip to the bottom, and to play drive hold near the cone...
    ok, i will try tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintDragon View Post
    I believe if you watch closely, he will actually lower his grip near to the bottom if he has time to smash from back court. Otherwise he keeps his grip near the cone.
    But more than just occasionally, this grip-shifting is a dead giveaway.
    It allows the opponent to read your next move (the smash) and ready himself to return it.
    I don't know how many people look for such telltale signs... but I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    But more than just occasionally, this grip-shifting is a dead giveaway.
    It allows the opponent to read your next move (the smash) and ready himself to return it.
    I don't know how many people look for such telltale signs... but I do.
    Yah....
    Especially when people flick-serve me, it seems to catch them slightly by surprise when I 'return with interest' while 'choking-the-cone'...
    Maybe they figured that since I hadn't 'grip-shifted', I wouldn't attempt to smash...
    Not sure if this works on "oldhands", though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    But more than just occasionally, this grip-shifting is a dead giveaway.
    It allows the opponent to read your next move (the smash) and ready himself to return it.
    Not really, since a long grip is suitable for clears and drop shots too. Of course, if you spot that your opponent uses a short grip for drop shots, then you can anticipate them.

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    Default Speaking of different from most players..

    Quote Originally Posted by jorel000 View Post
    Everytime I watch LCW's game, I noticed that his grip is different from most players, as well as mine. So can anybody tell me how he grips his racket and what other benefits will anybody get from that grip? Plus, can anyone give a picture of his gripping?
    ..benefit of holding near the cone is definitely for control..
    ..but yes, if one watches a video clip of Taufik playing, notice how the only time he'll change his grip location, from near the cone to near the butt-handle, is during the serve; after the serve, he'll slide his hand/grip further from the cone. Even during those net plays (drops or net kills/swipes/brushes), he'll tend to hold his racket near the butt-handle...rather than near the cone

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    Holding near the butt end extends your "weapon", at the cone it shortens it. Just like in close combat battle, a "shorter" weapon is effective, a longer one is useless. That is why taps and pushes near the net to the opponent's body are so deadly-the opponent simply cannot use his weapon. At longer distances you would want to use your heavy artillery-a long weapon.

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    The analogy doesn't work for singles. Top singles players generally use a long grip in all parts of the court.

    There are also some situations in doubles where long grips are used at the net, and some where short grips are used towards the back of the short.

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    isn't it closer to the net =closer to cone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishin View Post
    isn't it closer to the net =closer to cone?
    Yes, that's a general rule used for coaching newcomers to the game as it does relatively make the shot easier to execute.

    However at the highest levels, all basic rules are broken to garner every little advantage on court as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..benefit of holding near the cone is definitely for control..
    ..but yes, if one watches a video clip of Taufik playing, notice how the only time he'll change his grip location, from near the cone to near the butt-handle, is during the serve; after the serve, he'll slide his hand/grip further from the cone. Even during those net plays (drops or net kills/swipes/brushes), he'll tend to hold his racket near the butt-handle...rather than near the cone
    So where does LCW grip the racket? At the bottom or the middle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishin View Post
    isn't it closer to the net =closer to cone?
    Broadly speaking, yes; but this only applies for doubles, and even then it doesn't apply in every situation.

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    A lot of times you don't have enough time to change grips while moving from the front to back; especially in singles, because if you're being rushed to the front, you want to extend your reach to as far as possible, and not lose that extra 3-4 inches from moving your grip up. But each player has his/her own preferences; I tend to grip my racquet so low that my pinky finger is resting just above of the part of the grip which sticks out at the bottom, while most people hold it up an inch higher than that.

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    Smile A picture of LCW's forehand grip

    Quote Originally Posted by jorel000 View Post

    So where does LCW grip the racket? At the bottom or the middle?

    Quote Originally Posted by jorel000 View Post

    Plus, can anyone give a picture of his gripping?

    Hi jorel000,

    OK... Here is quite a good photo of LCW's forehand grip.



    Cheers... chris@ccc
    Last edited by chris-ccc; 12-08-2007 at 09:55 AM.

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    Looks absolutely standard to me.

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    From what I can see it's pretty standard...

    Maybe, just maybe he grips it a bit more in a variation away form panhandle...But that's really nitpicking..
    Looky here:


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    what about lin dan's grip..any pictures?? also fu hai feng's grip..
    ..evidence based ...
    Last edited by adammohamad; 12-08-2007 at 09:55 PM.

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    The first photo shows a shot somewhere from mid-court to 3/4 court. The second shot is hard to tell but the grip here is a bit shorter than the first shot, maybe a possible clue to its shorter distance. The third photo is not too clear although it would appear to be longer than the second photo.

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