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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    What a slap in the face for BWF if indeed this happens. The SS Finals is supposed to be the showcase event for them and yet they have no authority for make CHN attend. It doesn't auger well for the sport as advertisers and potential revenue sources too may give it a miss. At the moment, the professional badminton structure is weak and China has to realise that their withdrawal can do some future damage to it. In a sense, China needs to display some responsibility towards growing badminton. Without China's support, the sport could be set back a bit, which BWF can ill afford.

    BWF has to show some backbone and initiative to ensure China's attendance. It'll be a shame if their withdrawal really happens, but it just goes to show which dog is wagging BWF's tail.
    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    LYB has in many many occasions stressed the fact that the relatively poor performance of their player is due to over playing. they attended most of the SS events in order to gain olympic points at the expense of not able to do any systematic training that China believe strongly in, on top of that, the exertion from too many tournaments also caused a lot of injuries.

    if the SS finals don't have olympic points, then it makes sense for them to skip it and then rest their players so they can be fresher to play tourneys that do count towards olympics.

    olympics at this point is the #1 agenda in china, money is no object.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inky2000 View Post
    Anyway, without CHN's participation, let's see what the line-up may look like according to present SS rankings,

    MS: LCW, PG, KJ, SDK, BP, Simon, Shoji, Hafiz (Taufik needs to participate in HK SS and advance to at least one round ahead of Hafiz to be qualified)
    WS: PHY, XHW, WC, YPY, WMC, Tine, Petya, YJ
    MD: KKK/TBH, MK/HS, TG/CW, JE/MLH, CTF/LWW, JJS/LYD, Jap pair, Polish pair
    - tricky ... CW takes up 1/2 INA's seat, which might deny 2 other INA pairs' (who ranked immediately behind JJS/LYD) chances
    WD: LKW/LHJ, GE/DK, Jap pair, JYM/LYJ, CYC/CWH, Endang/Rani, Jap pair (2), CEH/WPT
    XD: NR/GE, Nova/Lilyana, Flandy/Vita, AC/DK, Thomas/Kamilla, Sudket/Saralee, Polish pair, HS/LYJ

    Not attractive anymore.
    In any way, without China's Participation in Super Series Finals, this tournament will lose its PRESTIGE since more than half of the top badminton players are from China at the momment. And the sponsors of this tourney (if there are some who have dealed already) will think twice...

    BWF should make an appropriate action to handle this.

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    Just scrap the SS Final. No date, no place, no sponsor, no China, no point.

    This shows just how badly managed WBF is. Apparently the current adminstrators are not good enough to bring badminton to the new height.

    If they really love the game, they should let other more capable to run the organisation. I still remember the case of fixing the BWF HQ early this year, yet there is no closure to it.

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    At least LYB has made a valid point - hectic year-round schedule with 12 SS, WC or OG, SC or TC/UC ... that means 14 world-class events per year (and I'm not counting AG or continental championships). Top players are worn up and yet no more quality training. Really, no point having SS Finals unless they cut down at least 2 SS tournaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chity hour View Post
    no china in finals?
    that would be very boring
    i love to watch my country kick china's a$$
    (like WMC did to XXF)
    May the please admin remove this post? This post is completely off topic and pointless. I find this (so call statement) is very insulting and provoking to the Chinese fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inky2000 View Post
    At least LYB has made a valid point - hectic year-round schedule with 12 SS, WC or OG, SC or TC/UC ... that means 14 world-class events per year (and I'm not counting AG or continental championships). Top players are worn up and yet no more quality training. Really, no point having SS Finals unless they cut down at least 2 SS tournaments.
    Agreed and understood, but it is still sad news for the fans. Which the top badminton nation is absent from the first year SS final.

    BWF probably needs more communication with team's coach and players before scheduling for the future years, 14 world class event year round is not realistic by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    May the please admin remove this post? This post is completely off topic and pointless. I find this (so call statement) is very insulting and provoking to the Chinese fans.
    posts removed and user banned.

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    It's good news of course for others to grab huge money and win title but this SS Final will be losing of interest because like or dislike CHN is the superpower in badminton world right now. Just imagine World Cup without Brazil or Germany, certainly there's something missing...

    Yeah, Beijing OG is everything for CHN including their badminton squad as one of China gold priority sport.

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    the Super Series is still relatively new and BWF has not really made it a desirable tournament to play in except for the prize money. prize money is usually a good incentive for countries to attend but unfortunately they happened to bump into Olympics qualification year. as a result, badminton countries who have exhausted player and don't have too much incentive for the prize money probably will not attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
    When BWF were planning their Super Series Events, they were thinking of holding them for the individual players, and not for the representatives of nations.
    Not true. There is a 2 player per country limit in the SS Finals and member association chooses which 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Please note:

    a. Chen Hong needs China Federation to register him in this event.....if China really withdraws, I do not think that they will register CH at all...

    b. BWF could not do same as ITF or WTA series final as they have alreadly limted the number of entries per country.
    As long as the badminton players could not register their names for the events ( still have to go thru their Federation), it will remain...will not be individual....( I had discussions with Tony G, Rexy and Hendrawan during breakfast)
    Exactly, hau-ge!

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
    Hi huangkwokhau,

    If what you have said is true, then I am most disappointed.
    What Hau-ge wrote is 100% accurate. Oh well... You're not the only one dissapointed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    well..may be China knows there will be no Super Series final.........
    LYB is smart.....he knows how to deal with HOT POTATO.....he won't take it when it's still HOT.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post
    I'm not suprised by that move. It is their silent way of boycotting the Finals after what happened during the China Open. Many people are already putting them in hot soup due to the controversies surrounding it.

    Olympics is in August. There is ample of time for them to rest actually.
    plus that the final SS event is not well organized.

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    Finale to badminton Super Series in chaos

    Wednesday November 21, 2007

    The finale to world badminton's flagship Super Series has been thrown into chaos after host Qatar failed to live up to its obligations and second choice Malaysia was ruled out as an alternative.

    This week's China Masters and next week's Hong Kong Open will bring to an end a successful inaugural year for the Badminton World Federation's (BWF) Super Series circuit.

    It is due to culminate in the Masters Final in Qatar from December 18-23 but the gas-rich nation failed to get enough sponsorship to underpin the event.

    The alternative venue, Alor Star in Malaysia, has also been ruled out as the dates clash with the Hari Raya Haji, a Muslim ceremony celebrating the Haj pilgrimage.

    "BWF has been advised that the finals were planned for December 18-23 in Qatar but have now been advised a switch of date and venue is necessary," said chair of BWF's events committee Anne Smillie.

    "We have been advised that the anticipated sponsorship from Qatar, which would have underpinned the Masters, has not been achieved and Alor Star has been put forward as an alternative venue.

    "But the proposed new dates of December 18-22 will not be possible because Malaysia's religious ceremony of Hari Raya Haji falls on December 20."

    She said the federation remained in "close and urgent" discussions with Qatar to try to resolve the problems.

    BWF executive deputy president Punch Gunalan added: "We are delighted with the success of the first 10 tournaments in this new 12-event circuit.

    "Naturally BWF is aware of the frustration of our member associations regarding the Super Series Masters Final. We would like to stress that we are working hard to ensure the tournament proceeds and that all the players who qualify for the Masters have adequate time to prepare."

    The BWF revamped its tour this year to create the Super Series, reducing the seeds for major tournaments to eight and the number of players in the main draw to 32.

    They also changed the rules so that players from the same country can be in the same half of the draw, in an attempt to make the game more competitive. AFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by taufik-ist View Post
    what a shocking news... how come ? why ?
    Given the CO outcome,CHN players unlikely to win any of the titles except WD.No show means no loss of face.LYB's reason for overplaying his team is ridiculous.The top players play the pretty much same number of tournaments. Actually LCW plays more than LD because of PO and TPO.
    LYB conning and cunning as usual to the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inky2000 View Post
    At least LYB has made a valid point - hectic year-round schedule with 12 SS, WC or OG, SC or TC/UC ... that means 14 world-class events per year (and I'm not counting AG or continental championships). Top players are worn up and yet no more quality training. Really, no point having SS Finals unless they cut down at least 2 SS tournaments.
    Players are not required to compete in every tournament. They can pick and choose, so what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    Agreed and understood, but it is still sad news for the fans. Which the top badminton nation is absent from the first year SS final.

    BWF probably needs more communication with team's coach and players before scheduling for the future years, 14 world class event year round is not realistic by any means.
    Top badminton nation? We're dealing with the top 8 in each event and each country is limited to 2 per event anyway.CHN absent? No loss in quality except WD.No problem with me.The top players deserve to have their share of end of season bonus.No player should be deprived of that because of CHN's shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    posts removed and user banned.
    Banned without warning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post
    Banned without warning?
    nah. he was warned.

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    An easy way for BWF to solve this issue would just be to award big ranking points on the SS finals.. Then it would hurt CHNs OG plans to not participate..

    /Twobeer

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