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11-26-2007, 10:58 PM #52
i think china just considered at next year olympik oni.....n they wan get more champion on it.....but malaysia sure can take champion even they train harder......
11-27-2007, 01:28 AM #53
You guys make it sound like everyone except China has to participate in the SS finals. Fact is, the tournament is in shambles and nobody is required to play in it. Of course it's bad for the sport if players don't participate in the flagship event of the BWF but they aren't obligated to in any way. As stated before, the event happened to land in an Olympic qualification year so players are participating in every possible qualification tournament to secure their spot in the Games and are probably in need of rest before the 2008 season begins. Given that there are no points involved in this tournament, I'd be willing to bet that there will be more players not participating in the Finals if they even take place as they need to rest up and aren't really in need of the money.
11-27-2007, 02:40 AM #54
It's gonna be round robin style so players play a minimum of 3 matches and max of 5.And it's all for better money than usual;why would they not turn up? In fact am delighted CHN withdraw (because LYB knows his players unlikely to win); it means instead of BCL and LD, we' ll have TH and BP. Isn't that more exciting? Looking forward to it in jan 08. (Confirmed by Spore's CV)
11-27-2007, 03:34 AM #55
11-27-2007, 05:19 AM #56
Walk the talk!
11-27-2007, 06:04 AM #57
11-27-2007, 06:16 AM #58
This structure, I think is also bad for the sport as the money needs to be bigger if we want it to grow commercially..
Other pro players on the other hand will just be happy if CHN players don't take part in big money events, as it will make their way to the money easier..
Fans like me however want to see the best players in action...
11-27-2007, 06:52 AM #59
Also its a good chance they will get occasional easy games from WO's or given games from "team"-members :P
So I don't think it is a fair assessment to say all Chinnese play more games..
looking at some stats...
in SS up to french..
The number of total matches are Gade:22,Bao:26,LD:35,KJ:22,LCW:29...
But if we take away the WO:s and "internal" CHN-team nmeetings it is:
11-27-2007, 07:53 AM #60
The SS Final is not an invitation event. You have to qualify for it. You have 12 SS chances throughout this competition year to accumulate as many points as possible. And then, ...with the blessing of your national association, you can possibly be one of the top player or pair of your country [max 2] to play in the SS Final.
Actually, Chris, is it also not fair to only allow the highest ranked competitor to participate in a normal SS event? Many BWF registered player could not play in some SS because they are not ranked high enough compared to the others... Thus, they could not get any ranking points in that SS because they don't qualify... So? Not fair for these unqualified people?
11-27-2007, 08:00 AM #61
Right now, CHN's desperate to maximise ranking points so they can field the max of 3 players per event. Even with that, CHN will unlikely land a title. If only 2 CHN per event, almost impossible for CHN to land a title because it means their players will have to be in lone ranger mode compared to team mode.
The trend is non-CHN players have been improving while CHN 's just clinging onto the cliff.
11-27-2007, 08:03 AM #62
11-27-2007, 08:49 AM #63
The SS Finals and the Olympics are both "Invitation" events
Perhaps I did not post correctly.
To me, the SS Finals and the Olympics are both "Invitation" events.
But I can see your point that if players wanted to be invited, then they have to gain ranking points to qualify for those events.
I was comparing "Invitation" events to "Open" events.
11-27-2007, 07:43 PM #64
the thing is though, we won't know the results until next year. IF, china comes out firing again next year, then China not attending will be proven as a smart choice. if they continue losing, then it's something different. BUT, until then, all we can really do is moan and groan. which i'd rather not do, and just watch who ever does go to the Finals.
11-28-2007, 12:46 AM #65
In my opinion, we really cannot call OG and WC "invitation" event at all... In "invitational" events, you cannot sue or blame the organizers for not inviting you. It is the organizer's right to invite or not invite you.
In OG,WC, and SS Final a player like Peter Gade can blame or even sue the organizers if they reject his request to play in those tournaments. He is ranked number 5 - 8 in the world and he is the highest ranked Danish MS player. Thus, it is Peter Gade's right to be included in those championships because he met all the requirements to participate.
No invitation is extended at all for OC, WC, and SS Final. They are BWF tournaments where either you qualify or you don't. Yes they have different rules than normal "Open" events, but we cannot describe them as "invitation" events at all since no invitation whatsoever was extended.
11-28-2007, 01:34 AM #66
SS Finals, Olympics, World Championships are "restricted" tournaments
I have to agree with you that "invitation" might be the incorrect word to be used.
I was thinking more in the 'positive' sense... that the organisers of the SS Finals, Olympics, World Championships, etc... are inviting only the top ranked players to participate.
Perhaps, 'restricted' might be the correct word to be used... since the organisers are not actually sending out invitations.
11-28-2007, 05:06 AM #67
11-28-2007, 05:10 AM #68
Oh well, their lost.
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