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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    That's why 'more heads are better than one' in this case with a neutral world organizations like the UN to provide help and solutions.
    ..that have five permanent members with veto powers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredlgf View Post
    ..that have five permanent members with veto powers...
    ...thankfully again that they are not all from the same camp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    ...thankfully again that they are not all from the same camp...
    ... leading to problems such as disagreement on what course to take during crises due to political interest and ideology...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredlgf View Post
    ... leading to problems such as disagreement on what course to take during crises due to political interest and ideology...
    ...imagine if they all agree on attacking Iran...or sending superior troops to oust the Myanmar military regime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    In theory it is so simple but the devil is in the practice. Can we say that there will be no wars, which are the very opposite of peace? Maybe it is in our genes. Why we war maybe be the reason why we survive and keep evolving to stay on top of the food chain. Humans need genetic mutation to move forward. Maybe, perpectual peace means no such mutation, which means the end of the human race. Food for thought, don't you agree?
    We have, er, an abundance of mutants
    Occasionally, one is spotted and banished by the moderators

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    I see this thread heading into the wrong direction....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loopy View Post
    I see this thread heading into the wrong direction....
    Yes we strayed. Humble apologies!
    BTW, I won't be joining you for Russia. Insufficient time for me and I've not even located the website yet!
    Good Luck to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Yes we strayed. Humble apologies!
    BTW, I won't be joining you for Russia. Insufficient time for me and I've not even located the website yet!
    Good Luck to you!
    Even though it's a GP, it's srprisingly on tournamentsoftware !
    A lot of people aren't getting in though, even the usual cats.
    Maybe now is my chance to not finish last

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwood View Post
    I agree with you 100% on walkout and walkover. I don't like them either. But bending the rules within the boundary is not illegal. Sport cheating in US is often illegal. If you recalled recent news about a track and field star returning medals to OG or a baseball all-time home-runner got indicted. So equating WO with cheating gives rise to a terrible perception about badminton to the public. All I'm asking is try to avoid using that word unless necessary and use a different word to describe it or qualify the remark. That would be better for everyone involved with this sports.
    Hi..i'm here to say sorry for those who i've offended before.Well,those r bad times,when we couldn't handle our young bad blood..but here we are now..hand in hand,for peace.

    For those who r still angry n couldn't accept the fact of the "so-called" dirty play..just remember,fighting against each other won't change a bit of the situation either..it'll just make things worse,esp the relations between each BC members.

    Those stuffs r supposed to be handled by IBF,BWF..not us.We r here,in BC or in any badminton forums,r only to support our countries,players,chit chat,talk about badminton,learn more about it.Not to fight against those who got different opinion or worse..attacking members from other countries.

    So..i'm happy that someone opened this thread.So..again,i'm sorry if i offended anyone before.For the love of badminton,let us all make up between one to another.

    Good day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Humans, like all living things, are genetically programmed to survive and evolve. This is despite countless wars, ethnic cleansing, religious wars, etc. When attacked by an unknown enemy the human species, even without modern science or technology, will overcome the enemy (say a monster virus or bacterial even worse than aids) eventually. This is because the genes in us will evolve to overcome the enemy after some initial disaster. Only a natural disaster like the explosion or death of our sun, can wipe us out.
    Of course I am not advocating a free-for-all in this forum that will end in a premature end to any discussion. Neither am I advocating a "yes man" to any discussion. The best discussion will have a point of opinion, another with a counter opinion, and a vigorous debate and exchange of views, perspectives, etc. Moderators should moderate only when necessary such as when personal attacks are mounted, but should be neutral and if possible not have any input other than as moderators.
    Your time frame is way off. Even though it may be programmed in our genes, we are still talking about relative minor actions, such as an argument, a key stroke, etc. We should all be able to handle them with logic and dignity

    So BC is really a forum for information exchange, mostly technical information. If we can keep politics, etc. out of the discussion, we will not misbehave as we usually do. Technical things have some basis, which forms the foundations for debates. BCers should stay on that course and base the discussion on facts, not go out on some hard to prove topics, which usually degenerate rapidly into politics.

    I know a lot of BCers are not happy with certain games and matches or ways some matches being conducted. I know there were some truth or facts to the arguments. Then let's try to help making changes to the rules or the improvement to prevent them from happening again. And let's help more and better next generations of players to come. Badminton is a growing sports with growing pain. It is no way perfect or near perfect. That's why our discussions may be helpful to find the common ground for strengthening and hastening the process

    Quote Originally Posted by Smichz View Post
    Hi..i'm here to say sorry for those who i've offended before.Well,those r bad times,when we couldn't handle our young bad blood..but here we are now..hand in hand,for peace.

    For those who r still angry n couldn't accept the fact of the "so-called" dirty play..just remember,fighting against each other won't change a bit of the situation either..it'll just make things worse,esp the relations between each BC members.

    Those stuffs r supposed to be handled by IBF,BWF..not us.We r here,in BC or in any badminton forums,r only to support our countries,players,chit chat,talk about badminton,learn more about it.Not to fight against those who got different opinion or worse..attacking members from other countries.

    So..i'm happy that someone opened this thread.So..again,i'm sorry if i offended anyone before.For the love of badminton,let us all make up between one to another.

    Good day..
    You said well, let's discuss the things objectively for the good of the sports.

    Since kwun may have been on the plane, we haven't got any "off topic" warning signal from him yet. But we have covered a lot ground. What else can we do besides making friends while little is going on. Holiday season is time for friendship and peace, perfect timing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loopy View Post
    I see this thread heading into the wrong direction....
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    Yes we strayed. Humble apologies!
    BTW, I won't be joining you for Russia. Insufficient time for me and I've not even located the website yet!
    Good Luck to you!
    Quote Originally Posted by Loopy View Post
    Even though it's a GP, it's srprisingly on tournamentsoftware !
    A lot of people aren't getting in though, even the usual cats.
    Maybe now is my chance to not finish last
    I see this thread is still headed in the wrong direction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredlgf View Post
    That was actually pretty clichèd.
    That's gentleperson's talk. Do you get it

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    I see this thread is still headed in the wrong direction...
    No, right direction for peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwood View Post
    That's gentleperson's talk. Do you get it
    Well understood, if not a little boring.

    Go on, as you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredlgf View Post

    Well understood, if not a little boring.

    Hey wilfredlgf,

    Hehehe... You and Pemuda have just caused another thread closed (just minutes ago), the thread referred to, is located at:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50127&page=5


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
    Hey wilfredlgf,

    Hehehe... You and Pemuda have just caused another thread closed (just minutes ago), the thread referred to, is located at:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50127&page=5

    It takes some talent to do that
    (Frankly, I think it was closed for other reasons.)

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    boring = no fighting = peace

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    thank you, all of you, that came here and supported the quest for peace. and i just wanted to state that i am all for discussion, even heated ones, as long as we know where the line is drawn.

    and birdwood i am all for fighting but i support clean fight. meaning when we debate, stay on topic and dont stray to sensitive issues like religion, land of birth or personal issues.

    i am so happy to see so many gentlemen here.

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