Why China never does well in South East Asia

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  1. vching

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    Why is South East Asia China's blind spot?
    An examination and analysis in consultation with several retired national players.

    No doubt China has been always been a strong badminton force ever since the turn of the century. However, if there is one place where China claims the least titles, it is the South East Asian region. Indonesia has long held the honor of denying China many titles, being an Indonesian stronghold, while Malaysia holds many bad memories for Chinese players. Singapore on the other hand, yields better performances from the Chinese team, but in comparison to other tournaments, is still significantly lower. Why is it that China cannot perform in South East Asia?

    When this question was posed to an retired National player, he jokingly remarked that it was the food. Oh, he adds, and the water too. Although all this was said in jest, this might hold a bit of sense. Perhaps its the food and the water that Chinese players are not used to. One Chinese player even brought bottled water and Chinese local food to Malaysia when participating in Malaysian tournaments. However, after asking several other retired players, some of them that used to play for China, this theory was dismissed by all of them. Oh well... It was a nice try.

    "Perhaps it is the crowd support?" - suggested someone. Yes. That must be it. Indonesian crowds, with their chants of "Ganyang Malaysia" and other furious chants, have always instilled fears in the heart of players and foreign supporters alike. On the other hand, the Malaysian supporters, not to be outdone, are equally boisterous and rowdy. In fact, the noisiest badminton encounters are usually the Thomas Cup finals encounters between Indonesia and Malaysia. The banging of the kompangs and the drums could very well be the reason why Chinese players get intimidated. It is often said that foreign players are not only against the other player facing them at the other side of the court, but are also against the crowd that would boo, cheer and chant their hearts out.. Perhaps?

    full article: The Badminton Blog: Why China never does well in South East Asia?
     
  2. vching

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    thanks for moving it out the Malaysian Open forum... I only realised i posted it in the wrong one after i published it :)
     
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    i think the crowd will be part of it. at the very least, the noise will give the players a big headache :p:p but i don't like it how the crowds in Indonesia boo. it just doesn't seem to show respect to the opposing players. or maybe it's just the way i've been taught at our school. no booing, ever.
     
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    The mentioned Indonesian crowd can be a double edge sword! The pressure of expectation of results surely effects their players as well like this years Indonesia Open and the PBSI head official's resignation.

    Even the Malaysian Crowd can feel overwhelming for Malaysian Players at times I'm sure.
     
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    just like this years malaysian open. only KKK and TBH did well. Lee fell, although Wong Mew did awesome to get to the finals.
     
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    hmm...

    so the mystery of why China fails to do well in South East Asia persists :D :D :D
     
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    But Asian and China players did done well in the European countries such as Denmark,French and England...
     
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    Instead of worrying about why China isn't winning every single event in every single tournament in every single country, why don't you try figuring out why Malaysia has never won a title in the world championship and Olympics...:rolleyes:
     
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    Pressure :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Brittle mental strength. It's a well known Malaysian malaise :D;)
     
  11. vching

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    that is a no brainer...

    Malaysians have weak mental strength. Don't rate their chances if you want them to win :D:D:D
     
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    This thread is not about Malaysia :)
     
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    actually, it does talk about Malaysia as a country :p:p sorry, i've had my streak of sarcasm for the day. i shall now retire into the small, padded cell they build for me :cool:
     
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    not used to the weather......:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    oh it's easy...Indonesian is waay to strong for them
     
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    It's funny how Indonesia didn't even win a title in Indonesia open 07 if they really are TOO STRONG... and relating to this thread, in part of South East Asia.:rolleyes:
     
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    lin dan withdrew from the MO 08...
    hmm...
    any reason??
     
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    Lin Dan won WC08 which is held in Malaysia, so his withdrawal has nothing to do with the location itself... probably has something to do with over-train during the past month or so. Not Confirmed though, so don't take my word for it.
     
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    that my friend, I don't know why...:p I'm partial. I was born there, my badminton allegiance is with INA and carola bott :D
     
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    dunno why MAS players can get a single medal in their homeground during last year world meet:D
     
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