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    The BAM has now blamed itself for allowing Rexy to have too much discretion to train his players. They are now saying Rexy has not delivered and that he has been given him too much time to deliver which he has failed.
    From now on Rexy will have to submit monthly "report cards" on his players to BAM. The heat is on Rexy now.
    This type of performance appraisal should have been carried out from the beginning. But then Rexy, with his initial success in the early years, might have objected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    ..and if rexy is smart, and i hope he reads this thread, join 'forces' with tkh for if the world's best 2 md coaches in malaysia and the results is still not there after tc then the problem lies elsewhere...

    let's us hear what rexy has to say in the next few weeks...
    Msia's TC line up is weaker than 2008, hard even to reach finals. So by setting such a target, same as saying ' you're fired but better if you resign yourself'

    If results not there, they can say TKH just came, Rexy is chief, so Rexy's fault. If TKH help & Msia does well, they can say it's due to TKH, not Rexy. Standard politics lah

    But isnt Rexy's contract supposed to be until mid 2011? Or they just extended 1 year from 2009..

    Meanwhile the drama continues from other parties :Rashid's responde to BAM President's statement, read the last line.
    http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...cle/print_html
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Msia's TC line up is weaker than 2008, hard even to reach finals. So by setting such a target, same as saying ' you're fired but better if you resign yourself'

    If results not there, they can say TKH just came, Rexy is chief, so Rexy's fault. If TKH help & Msia does well, they can say it's due to TKH, not Rexy. Standard politics lah

    But isnt Rexy's contract supposed to be until mid 2011? Or they just extended 1 year from 2009..

    Meanwhile the drama continues from other parties :Rashid's responde to BAM President's statement, read the last line.
    http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...cle/print_html
    yes, mas line up is weak because of the gap between the 1st singles and 2nd singles and exactly the same with the doubles.

    so now its up to rexy to play his card fast to avoid the standard politics...

    rashid is fast to pinpoint that as he quoted in bh but that won't change anything in bam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Msia's TC line up is weaker than 2008, hard even to reach finals. So by setting such a target, same as saying ' you're fired but better if you resign yourself'

    If results not there, they can say TKH just came, Rexy is chief, so Rexy's fault. If TKH help & Msia does well, they can say it's due to TKH, not Rexy. Standard politics lah

    But isnt Rexy's contract supposed to be until mid 2011? Or they just extended 1 year from 2009..

    Meanwhile the drama continues from other parties :Rashid's responde to BAM President's statement, read the last line.
    http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...cle/print_html
    Not so fast, pls hold your horses.
    Rexy was appointed in mid 2005. It is now coming to 5 years. The year 2008 saw Rexy in his 3rd year with BAM. Now, what has changed since then for the current team to be weaker than in 2008?
    I think BAM has every right to demand some silverware from their men's doubles. Five long years with only one high prize AE in 2007, but great disappointments in both the World Championship and the Olympics.
    Don't read too much about contract terms. A coach can be contracted to 2011. Depending on the terms of the contract, a sidelined coach might still be paid for doing nothing or he can be paid off to leave early.
    There were some comments from former national player James Selvaraj criticizing the makeup of the new BAM coaching and training committee for not including more ex-players, although Rexy, Rashid, and Sun Chenhua are in the committee. I think James is out of step with timing. He should have criticized why action was not taken earlier, not the makeup members of the new committee for lacking enough past players. I am glad James is not in any responsible position in the BAM or in any organization. We want strategic thinkers and action men who can think ahead and take corrective action before the rot sets in, not people who complain about the percent of ex-players versus non-players in the committee.
    The fault of BAM was not to crack the whip earlier. Now so much time has been lost. No one is indispenasble, and a great coach cannot live on his laurels after just one initial success if he under-delivers for the next 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Not so fast, pls hold your horses.
    Rexy was appointed in mid 2005. It is now coming to 5 years. The year 2008 saw Rexy in his 3rd year with BAM. Now, what has changed since then for the current team to be weaker than in 2008?
    I think BAM has every right to demand some silverware from their men's doubles. Five long years with only one high prize AE in 2007, but great disappointments in both the World Championship and the Olympics.
    Don't read too much about contract terms. A coach can be contracted to 2011. Depending on the terms of the contract, a sidelined coach might still be paid for doing nothing or he can be paid off to leave early.
    There were some comments from former national player James Selvaraj criticizing the makeup of the new BAM coaching and training committee for not including more ex-players, although Rexy, Rashid, and Sun Chenhua are in the committee. I think James is out of step with timing. He should have criticized why action was not taken earlier, not the makeup members of the new committee for lacking enough past players. I am glad James is not in any responsible position in the BAM or in any organization. We want strategic thinkers and action men who can think ahead and take corrective action before the rot sets in, not people who complain about the percent of ex-players versus non-players in the committee.
    The fault of BAM was not to crack the whip earlier. Now so much time has been lost. No one is indispenasble, and a great coach cannot live on his laurels after just one initial success if he under-delivers for the next 3 years.
    whaoh that was long..well, i suppose that's why tkh comes in..

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    Well, in that case, we will gladly welcome Rexy Mainaky back into Pelatnas with open arms

    The timing is just right....we have a growing group of young and talented BD pairs (at least proven in the Domestic Circuits) striving to make their marks. With appropriate coaching and exposure, these BD pairs will hopefully be INA's top MD pairs in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Well, in that case, we will gladly welcome Rexy Mainaky back into Pelatnas with open arms

    The timing is just right....we have a growing group of young and talented BD pairs (at least proven in the Domestic Circuits) striving to make their marks. With appropriate coaching and exposure, these BD pairs will hopefully be INA's top MD pairs in the near future.
    that may not happen. even though currently bam is making noise for the coaches to deliver during coming tc10 or else..., here, it is obvious not only mas coaches got the warning..

    how can bam so be sure mas will fail in tc10 and knowingly in advance, got tkh in temporary and then fire rexy? would that be financially risky? what if mas won and bam has to foot those hugh salaries of rexy, tkh to name a few...

    of course there is other option if, mas won tc10 it will be easier to look for extra sponsor....we can only speculate at this point in time, maybe rexy will give us a clue in the coming weeks...

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    Default I still remember this thread..

    ..from nearly 5 yrs ago..Boy, it seemed like it was y'day, wasn't it??..

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=23516

    Check out the first few posts in that thread, all the excitement and hope....and here we are, nearly 5 yrs later; how things have changed or not really changed??..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..from nearly 5 yrs ago..Boy, it seemed like it was y'day, wasn't it??..

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=23516

    Check out the first few posts in that thread, all the excitement and hope....and here we are, nearly 5 yrs later; how things have changed or not really changed??..
    ya rite, just like yesterday but if we put those threads together we can see tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..from nearly 5 yrs ago..Boy, it seemed like it was y'day, wasn't it??..

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=23516

    Check out the first few posts in that thread, all the excitement and hope....and here we are, nearly 5 yrs later; how things have changed or not really changed??..
    Every country's quest for badminton supremacy is like an Arms Race. Even the once mighty dinosaurs were engaged in an arms race until balance was achieved. Like what Sun Tzu wrote in his "Art of War" : when in peace, prepare for war. When at war, prepare for peace. After the initial excitment of Rexy's early success, opponents went back to the drawing boards and drew up counter weapons that were more powerful-shades of the arms race-but Malaysia stood still instead of preparing for the possibility of defeat and coming with plans to be much better than before. Time doesn't wait for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Not so fast, pls hold your horses.
    Rexy was appointed in mid 2005. It is now coming to 5 years. The year 2008 saw Rexy in his 3rd year with BAM. Now, what has changed since then for the current team to be weaker than in 2008?...

    Don't read too much about contract terms. A coach can be contracted to 2011. Depending on the terms of the contract, a sidelined coach might still be paid for doing nothing or he can be paid off to leave early...

    ..... No one is indispenasble, and a great coach cannot live on his laurels after just one initial success if he under-delivers for the next 3 years.

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    Yes, I understand your point, you have a right to your view. If you read earlier posts, you would know I also think it's good TKH come back
    The silverware stuff is not the only thing when politics are being played ya.
    BAM normally dont do things like 'coach paid for doing nothin or paid off to leave early'.

    Rexy also oversee WD dept which won 2009 SEA Women's Team gold after 34 yrs - as you know, Rexy chose to field the WKW/NHL stratch pair who clinched the winning pt. WPT/CEH won 1 SS title per yr after with Rexy since 2008. Rexy job not only covers MD, but WD & XD

    TC 2010 : 2nd & 3rd MS will probably will be without WCH this time, the back up cannot even keep up with this uncle's standard. 2008 Msia had CTF/LWW along with KKK/TBH, Fuzzy. All had years of experience playing in numerous SS, team events, except TBH. Even TBH then had played once in 2006 TC.
    THis time, Fuzzy is out of sorts, CPS/LKW, Mak/TWK lack exposure playing SS, team events if compared to the pairs for 2008. Now they play more in GP Gold & below.

    Rexy is most successful foreign coach Msia have had, with all the politics & constant questioning (even after the players won titles) that needs weaving thru.

    I certainly would not think Rexy has been sitting on his laurels or under delivered after the 2007 AE but as something that other coaches were also not sucessful to do for so many years. If under Rexy doubles can win AE, AG, WC, OG gold, then I'll think Rexy must be super duper terror with some secret formula.
    Of course, you may think otherwise, it's ok , no need to further debate on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Yes, I understand your point, you have a right to your view. If you read earlier posts, you would know I also think it's good TKH come back
    The silverware stuff is not the only thing when politics are being played ya.
    BAM normally dont do things like 'coach paid for doing nothin or paid off to leave early'.

    Rexy also oversee WD dept which won 2009 SEA Women's Team gold after 34 yrs - as you know, Rexy chose to field the WKW/NHL stratch pair who clinched the winning pt. WPT/CEH won 1 SS title per yr after with Rexy since 2008. Rexy job not only covers MD, but WD & XD

    TC 2010 : 2nd & 3rd MS will probably will be without WCH this time, the back up cannot even keep up with this uncle's standard. 2008 Msia had CTF/LWW along with KKK/TBH, Fuzzy. All had years of experience playing in numerous SS, team events, except TBH. Even TBH then had played once in 2006 TC.
    THis time, Fuzzy is out of sorts, CPS/LKW, Mak/TWK lack exposure playing SS, team events if compared to the pairs for 2008. Now they play more in GP Gold & below.

    Rexy is most successful foreign coach Msia have had, with all the politics & constant questioning (even after the players won titles) that needs weaving thru.

    I certainly would not think Rexy has been sitting on his laurels or under delivered after the 2007 AE but as something that other coaches were also not sucessful to do for so many years. If under Rexy doubles can win AE, AG, WC, OG gold, then I'll think Rexy must be super duper terror with some secret formula. Of course, you may think otherwise
    hmm
    i dont know much about badminton before 2004 in malaysia
    but as i know
    the title koo/tan win in 3 years is more than ctf/lww in 13 years
    after rexy come
    malaysia won 4 bronze in wc,md(3) and xd(1)
    1 ae after 25 years
    1 ag gold(after 36 years) and a xd bronze
    1 sea games women team gold(after 34 years)
    9 md ss title and 2 wd ss title
    + 6 gp gold title
    5 from koo/tan(3 macau open,1 mas gp gold and 1 philipines open)
    1 from cps/lkw
    not to forget 3 ssmf title
    anyway,if this kind of result is consider not ok
    then i dont know who else can produce a better result for mas doubles department than rexy
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    Changes in duties for the national doubles coaches

    By RAJES PAUL

    KUALA LUMPUR: Coach Tan Kim Her has now been entrusted with the job to groom the country’s top back-up pair of Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong after another round of changes in the national men’s doubles department.
    In fact, all the coaches will have equally important roles to play in strengthening the men’s, women’s and mixed doubles players.
    Chief coach Rexy Mainaky will resume training the elite men’s players after playing the overseer role for some time and he will be assisted by Jeremy Gan.
    Three others coaches – Rosman Razak, Pang Cheh Chang and Chang Kim Wai – have been given a minimum of two pairs to work with.
    Kim Her, who is back in the national set-up after stints in South Korea and England, is happy with the current arrangement.

    The changes were decided in a meeting among the coaches last week and the new arrangements will be in place until the Thomas-Uber Cup Finals, which will be held at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from May 9-16.
    “I had a discussion with Rexy and Rosman. I felt that there was a need to change and I’m happy with the changes,” said Kim Her.
    “It is important for the coaches to work together. All the coaches have prominent roles to play in grooming the best players for the country.”
    The other pairs under the charge of Kim Her are Mohd Lutfi Zaim Abdul Khalid-Goh Jian Hao, Vountus Indra Mawan-Mohd Razif Abdul Latif and Chooi Kah Ming- Ow Yao Han.
    Kah Ming is a world junior champion with Yao Han last year. Yao Han will join Kim Her after the World Juniors in Mexico from April 16-25.
    Kim Her’s immediate task is to get Hee Chun-Wee Kiong ready for the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC), which will be held in New Delhi from April 12-18.
    “This pair is in the running to get into the Thomas Cup squad. They will get the chance to prove their worth in the ABC. Hopefully, they will give a strong showing,” said Kim Her.
    Hee Chun-Wee Kiong will take on Indonesians Bona Septano-Rian Sukmawan in the opening round.
    The other Malaysian pairs for the ABC are Soon Hock-Thien How and Wei Shem-Kok Siang.


    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...582&sec=sports

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    ..it's good to see Rexy and Tan Kim Her are working together (or at least doing their best to work together). I hope their effort is really a genuine cooperation from both parties..

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    Tan Kim Her will take Mak Hee Chun/Tan Wee Kiong and Chooi Kah Ming/Ow Yao Han? Interesting

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    Thumbs up Specialised extra training pays off for Kim Her’s charges

    “But they didn’t really kick up a fuss in training. They continued to give their best in the early training session and they are now beginning to taste the fruits of their efforts.
    “They have the potential and there is still much room for improvement. It will take a little more time for them to become stable pairs on the international stage. I am confident that this group will continue to show great commitment in training.”
    Kim Her added that Wei Shem-Kok Siang, who had been living in the shadows of Hee Chun-Wee Kiong, stepped up in the Kedah Open due to a specialised training programme tailor-made to cut down on their weaknesses.
    “Kok Siang is talented but lacked power. Wei Shem is one of the most complete players that I have seen but he needs to be consistent,” he said.
    “I focused more on physical training for Kok Siang while it is about agility and court training for Wei Shem.
    “Kok Siang and Wei Shem have done well to beat all the top players and now, they must ride on this momentum. Great things will be in store for them as far as their future is concerned if they continue to put badminton as priority in their lives.”
    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...634&sec=sports

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