Lee Chong Wei - fastest recorded smash?

**zqloy** · 02-05-2008, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ah_Shum

why does everyone have so much hate on China?..just cuz other countries can't beat the speed they whine and cry about it

FHF is the RECORD HOLDER..im sorry if that dissapoints ppl..but from a China fan..o0o0o0o yeaaa babi~...I even have the yonex shirt which recognizes FHF's WORLD RECORD smash

The thread is just discussing about the smashing speed, its nothing to do with "hating" china. Plz dont be so sensitive.

**taneepak** · 02-05-2008, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

If I'm not mistaken, what's recorded is the speed at which the shuttle leaves the racquet face... and not its mid-flight or interim velocity.

So, where the smasher was matters little in this debate

I tend to agree with Oldhand on this. First we must understand how is the speed recorded? If it records just the few milliseconds off the "starting block" then it doesn't matter even if the speed of the shuttle is the slowest in the world at the end of its travel. We are talking about the fastest recorded speed, not about the reaction time the opponent has. The world's fastest smash from way behind the backline is no match for a simple smash in front of the net by a 10 year old girl, who may smash with half the recorded speed of the world's fastest smash.
A more meaningful way of recording the speed of a smash would be to measure the speed from the time the shuttle leaves the racquet to the time the opponent returns it or to a place where it landed if the opponent could not reach it. This way, it would be called the fastest recorded effective smash.

**Smichz** · 02-05-2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by bananakid

Of course the backhand smash speed belongs to Taufik... simply because they never ever recorded anyone else's backhand smash(not that many players have done it in game play).

Chen Hong used to have a very powerful and accurate backhand smash as well, just never ever been measured for its speed.

Hmmm...i've seen backhand smashes from CH..n it's nothing like TH's.CH's one of the pros who uses backhand smashes..but really,incomparable to TH.U can never hear "whipppp..." from CH's backhand smash,but u can always hear that coming from TH's.Also,The only team which has players who r good in backhands,r the indo team.U can name them..kido,chandra,limpele,nova,etc..although nothing like TH,but still they can do it better than the other teams.

***Oldhand*** · 02-05-2008, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

If I'm not mistaken, what's recorded is the speed at which the shuttle leaves the racquet face... and not its mid-flight or interim velocity.

So, where the smasher was matters little in this debate

Originally Posted by Temasek Green

Common oldhand, if u smash up to the air and u smash down to the ground which one is faster and which one need more effort,it all about angle and velocity,gravity & position as well. And the position that determine how acute is the angle of the smash need to be apply.

You cannot apply the same angle of the half court smash just like a baseline smash.I believe from your experiences, you wont apply the same angle from differences position to ensure the birdie didn't stuck at the net and land to the right destination.So you mention, where the smasher was matters little in this debate ???

In my entire life of playing badminton,I don't have a smash from baseline which is faster than my half court smash.Why ??? everybody knows the answer.So the position do matter alot.

Is your baseline smash is faster than your half court smash oldhand ???

I wish you'd digested my post before jumping off the deep end.
To repeat: what's recorded when rating a smash's speed is the shuttle's initial velocity.
I neither offered nor challenged any views on the ideal smash position.

Originally Posted by taneepak

We are talking about the fastest recorded speed, not about the reaction time the opponent has.

There you have it

**Smichz** · 02-05-2008, 08:47 PM

Can u see this coming from any other players,include CH??
He recorded a 260kmh for his backhand smash,while playing against CH,during the 2006WC..Too bad youtube didn't upload the moment.

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=7iUjI58OJnE
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=ualwAwHjopU
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=E04SsX9EXts
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=vvhhgxVgA5E
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=ahd5smCyaaw

CH usually only do crosscourt backhand smash.Well,so that u'd know,straight back hand smash is harder than crosscourt,but u know what,he also can do CH's style..cross court..

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=CzZKq1...eature=related
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2oKxZf00c
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=0tU7eT0O7M0&NR=1

After seeing this,would u still believe if anyone said any other current pro players can do it better than taufik??I don't think so..Whether u like it or not,he's the best in backhand..n he can do it in any intense games,..n he has done it many many times before,unlike many others,who only do it during practices.

I never realized it,but he hold both MS forehand smash record n backhand smash record..that's sick..

**jhirata** · 02-05-2008, 10:02 PM

TH's backhand smash is scary.. because it suddenly comes out of nowhere and destroys the opponent :O

**ye333** · 02-05-2008, 10:26 PM

Agree here. TH's backhand smash seems to be much more powerful than anyone else's. And he seems to be the only one among current players who can release powerful backhand smashes even when he is fully stretched. I have seen Xiong Guobao did some similarly amazing backhand smashes, but even his do not have the "whippp" feeling.

In short, Taufik is the only one who can deliver a backhand "forehand smash", if you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by Smichz

Hmmm...i've seen backhand smashes from CH..n it's nothing like TH's.CH's one of the pros who uses backhand smashes..but really,incomparable to TH.U can never hear "whipppp..." from CH's backhand smash,but u can always hear that coming from TH's.Also,The only team which has players who r good in backhands,r the indo team.U can name them..kido,chandra,limpele,nova,etc..although nothing like TH,but still they can do it better than the other teams.

***Oldhand*** · 02-05-2008, 10:29 PM

Er, Taufik Hidayat is not the subject of this thread

**Ah_Shum** · 02-05-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

Er, Taufik Hidayat is not the subject of this thread

hahaha gd one..wut a burn..went from LCW --> FHF --> TH..lol

**chgoh25** · 02-05-2008, 11:03 PM

chen hong has very hard smash too.. easily 290-300+

**Smichz** · 02-05-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

Er, Taufik Hidayat is not the subject of this thread

Errr...but when it comes to MS fastest smash record,for both forehand,and backhand..TH is the subject,not LCW..

**Temasek Green** · 02-06-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Smichz

Errr...but when it comes to MS fastest smash record,for both forehand,and backhand..TH is the subject,not LCW..

Ya I agree with you,you're right . I see the TRUUUUUUUUE COLORS

**yy_ling** · 02-06-2008, 11:08 AM

aren't you guys talking about forehand smashes....

**taneepak** · 02-06-2008, 09:17 PM

Its main theme is about the fastest recorded smash by LCW, and it has given roots to all types of smash, forehand and backhand, that want to lay claim to the title of the fastest recorded smash.

**ants** · 02-06-2008, 10:11 PM

Taufik's backhand is SICK indeed. Its also recognised by all the pros in the Series. So far i only saw once or twice backhand smash by LCW. But not as lethal as TH.

**taneepak** · 02-06-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by ants

Taufik's backhand is SICK indeed. Its also recognised by all the pros in the Series. So far i only saw once or twice backhand smash by LCW. But not as lethal as TH.

SICK as in sick? Doesn't make sense. You mean SLICK?