Thomas And Uber Cup Qualifiers - Asian Zone

**cxytdn** · 02-03-2008, 10:13 PM

Easy for Malaysia, uphill for hosts Vietnam
3 February 2008

MALAYSIA had it easy but that was not the case for hosts Vietnam after the draw for the Robot Thomas and Uber Cups Asian Zone qualifiers were concluded in Kuala Lumpur on Sunday.

Vietnam was drawn together with Korea and Singapore in Group B of the Thomas Cup qualifiers while Chinese Taipei and Hong Kong are the hurdles in Group Y of Vietnam’s Uber Cup campaign.

The Asian zone qualifiers will be held in the city of Ho Chih Minh in Vietnam from Feb 19 to 24. The draw was conducted by Badminton Asia Confederation’s (BAC) Chair of Events Surasak Songvorakulpan, who is also the Referee for the championships.

Also present to witness the draw were BAC Chief Operating Officer Karen Koh, Badminton World Federation (BWF) Secretary General Stuart Borrie, Ho Chih Minh Badminton Association Executive Vice Chairman Huynh Ngoc Lien and BA of Malaysia (BAM) General Manager Kenny Goh.

Malaysia, on the other hand, has only India for company in Group Z of the Uber Cup while the men have Chinese Taipei, Pakistan and Cambodia for company in the Thomas Cup.

Korea and Singapore will fight it out in both the Thomas and Uber Cup campaigns after both teams were drawn in the same group. The third team in their groups are Vietnam (Thomas Cup) and Cambodia (Uber Cup).

The top two teams from each group will qualify for the last eight stage of the qualifiers.

Title holders China and hosts Indonesia qualify automatically for the Finals which will take place in Jakarta from May 11 to 18. A total of 12 nations, including China and Indonesia, will battle it out in Jakarta.

For Asia, the top four teams from the Asian zone Thomas Cup qualifiers will make the trip to Jakarta while the top three teams in the Uber Cup qualifiers, will book their places in the finals. Asia will get an additional berth in the Uber Cup provided its fourth placed team rank higher than Europe’s fourth place finisher based on the world rankings list on Feb 27.

Thomas Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group A: Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Cambodia;
Group B: Korea, Singapore, Vietnam;
Group C: Japan, India, Pakistan;
Group D: Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Macau.

Uber Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group W: Japan, Thailand, Cambodia;
Group X: Korea, Singapore, Cambodia;
Group Y: Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Vietnam;
Group Z: Malaysia, India.

**abedeng** · 02-03-2008, 10:41 PM

Errr, how did we get Cambodia in both Uber Cup group W and X?

**cxytdn** · 02-03-2008, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by abedeng

Errr, how did we get Cambodia in both Uber Cup group W and X?

WBF's NEWS did so, I think it should be as follows:

Thomas Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group A: Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Cambodia;
Group B: Korea, Singapore, Vietnam;
Group C: Japan, India, Philippines;
Group D: Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Macau.

Uber Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group W: Japan, Thailand, Sri Lanka;
Group X: Korea, Singapore, Cambodia;
Group Y: Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Vietnam;
Group Z: Malaysia, India.

**samuel882** · 02-04-2008, 10:39 PM

Easy for MAS?
They got Chinese Taipei for their company, whom both of the doubles pair has beaten MAS pair before. they just need to steal one point from 3rd single : HH .
Who is easy then?

**abedeng** · 02-07-2008, 08:12 AM

Says here that the Asian Uber Cup spots are only guaranteed 3 places, the 4th country may qualify IF it is ranked higher than the equivalent European team.

How are teams ranked, by individual players' rankings vis a vis their position, or a combination of all the team's ranking by handicap calculation?

What if two teams A and B have the following rank:-

Position - Team A - Team B
WS1 - WR1 - WR 20
WS2 - WR 25 - WR 21
WS3 - WR 30 - WR 22
WD1 - WR1 - WR 10
WD2 - WR15 - WR 11

If based on individual players' ranking per theoretical match, then B beats A 3-2.

If based on teams' overall ranking (handicap calculation), A beats B 72-84 (lower score wins).

**abedeng** · 02-07-2008, 08:47 AM

I would prefer a straight fight between the 4th placed Asian vs the 4th placed European team.

How do you accurately determine team rankings anyway? We've had occasions in the past where a team with lower ranked players beat the opposition which generally had higher ranking players.

A straight fight will settle the issue, beyond reasonable doubt.

***Oldhand*** · 02-07-2008, 09:10 AM

India has abandoned the preparatory camp for the Thomas & Uber Cups!
Guess why... the players don't have enough shuttles for practice

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNew...31808120080207

**george@chongwei** · 02-07-2008, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

India has abandoned the preparatory camp for the Thomas & Uber Cups!
Guess why... the players don't have enough shuttles for practice

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNew...31808120080207

wtf!!..
bcoz of not enough shuttlecock for training, they purposely sent home over 30 players ..
what a waste!

**cxytdn** · 02-07-2008, 10:12 AM

Let's see............................................... .

**cxytdn** · 02-07-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by abedeng

Says here that the Asian Uber Cup spots are only guaranteed 3 places, the 4th country may qualify IF it is ranked higher than the equivalent European team.

How are teams ranked, by individual players' rankings vis a vis their position, or a combination of all the team's ranking by handicap calculation?

What if two teams A and B have the following rank:-

Position - Team A - Team B
WS1 - WR1 - WR 20
WS2 - WR 25 - WR 21
WS3 - WR 30 - WR 22
WD1 - WR1 - WR 10
WD2 - WR15 - WR 11

If based on individual players' ranking per theoretical match, then B beats A 3-2.

If based on teams' overall ranking (handicap calculation), A beats B 72-84 (lower score wins).

Look here:
World Team Ranking [Jan 31 2008]

**Dreamzz** · 02-07-2008, 10:52 AM

i reckon it's gonna be:

TC

MAS vs THA/SIN (i think SIN probably has the edge)
JPN vs KOR

UC

JPN vs MAS/SIN (i think SIN has the edge here too)
HK vs KOR

**Dreamzz** · 02-07-2008, 11:01 AM

when are the european qualifiers?

**LazyBuddy** · 02-07-2008, 11:49 AM

According to earlier report, I thought Vietnam is seeded as it's the host?

**abedeng** · 02-07-2008, 11:45 PM

Mr Loh,

Is Li Li competing in Uber qualifiers for S'pore? With her around, it would be an interesting MAS vs SIN confrontation.

**Loh** · 02-08-2008, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by abedeng

Mr Loh,

Is Li Li competing in Uber qualifiers for S'pore? With her around, it would be an interesting MAS vs SIN confrontation.

Well, I doubt so since it is assumed she has returned to China to join her parents to celebrate CNY and needed more time to 'recuperate'. As agreed by many, she left in the most inopportune time, I'm afraid.

I hope she could change her mind fast enough to be able to make it for the Beijing Olympics, otherwise her younger teammate, Xing Aiying, will benefit from her absence.

**cxytdn** · 02-08-2008, 01:17 AM

uber Cup Team Entries By Names

Badminton Asia Confederation

1.cambodia
Noeuv Sodany
Chann Dara
Keo Pich Chanravy
Chhuon Chay Ry

2.chinese Taipei
Cheng Shao Chieh
Pai Min Jie
Chien Yu Chin
Chiu Yi Ju
Chang Li Ying
Cheng Wen Hsing
Chou Chia Chi
Yang Chia Tseng
Tsai Pei Ling

3.hong Kong
Wang Chen
Yip Pui Yin
Zhou Mi
Ng Ka Shun
Mong Kwan Yi
Chan Tsz Ka
Chau Hoi Wah
Koon Wai Chee
Tse Ying Suet

4.india
Nehwal Saina
Murgunde Trupti
Mutatkar Aditi
Kurian Shruti
Balan Aparna
Gutta Jwala
Gokhale Sayali
P. Jyotsna

5.japan
Hirose Eriko
Mori Kaori
Hirayama Yu
Imabeppu Kaori
Ogura Kumiko
Shiota Reiko
Suetsuna Satoko
Maeda Miyuki
Matsuda Tomomi
Akao Aki

6.korea
Jun Jae Youn
Hwang Jye Youn
Lee Yun Hwa
Jang Soo Young
Kim Moon Hi
Lee Kyung Won
Lee Hyo Jung
Ha Jung Eun
Kim Min Jung
Hwang Yu Mi

7.malaysia
Wong Mew Choo
Wong Julia Pei Xian
Kaur Anita Raj
Cheah Lydia Li Ya
Wong Pei Tty
Chin Eei Hui
Lim Pek Siah
Haw Chiou Hwee
Ng Hui Lin
Goh Liu Ying

8.singapore
Li Li
Xing Aiying
Fu Mingtian
Gu Juan
Yao Lei
Liu Fan Frances
Li Yujia
Jiang Yanmei
Neo Yu Yan Vanessa
Sari Shinta Mulia

9.sri Lanka
Jayasinghe Thilini
Hettiarachchige Renu Chandrika
Murukuwadura Nadeesha
Kuruppu M. Achini
Handunkutti Lekha
Pepera Gayani
Dahanayake Subodha
Samanthika Upuli

10.thailand
Ponsana Salakjit
Chansrisukot Soratja
Buranaprasertsuk Porntip
Taerattanachai Sapsiree
Aroonkesorn Duanganong
Voravichitchaikul Kunchala
Thoungthongkam Saralee

11.vietnam
Le Ngoc Nguyen Nhung
Le Thi Thanh Thuy
Nguyen Thi Sen
Phung Nguyen Phuong Nhi
Phi Thi Quynh Mai
Vu Thi Trang (b)
Tran Thi Thanh Thao

**cxytdn** · 02-08-2008, 01:24 AM

thomas Cup Team Entries By Names

Badminton Asia Confederation

1.cambodia
Nuon Sophorn
Troeung Veasna
Teav Yong Vannak
Chea Bun Chanbol

2.chinese Taipei
Tsai Chia Hsin
Hu Chung Hsien
Lee Sheng Mu
Fang Chien Min
Chien Yu Hsun
Lin Yu Lang
Hsieh Yu Hsing
Liao Sheng Shiun
Hsueh Hsuan Yi
Chu Han Chou

3.hong Kong
Ng Wei
Chan Yan Kit
Wong Wai Hong
Wong Wing Ki
Wiratama Yohan Hadikusumo
Hui Wai Ho
Njoto Albertus Susanto
Putra Alroy Tanama
Leung Chun Yiu

4.india
Sridhar Anup
Bhat Arvind
Anand Chetan
Kashyap P
Vidyadhar J.b.s.
Thomas Sanave
Diju V.
Dewalkar Akshay
Kumar Rupesh

5.japan
Sato Shoji
Sasaki Sho
Tago Kenichi
Endo Hiroyuki
Masuda Keita
Ohtsuka Tadashi
Sakamoto Shuichi
Iketa Shintaro
Kawaguchi Keishi
Kawamae Naoki

6.korea
Park Sung Hwan
Lee Hyun Ii
Shon Seung Mo
Lee Cheol Ho
Lee Yong Dae
Jung Jae Sung
Hwang Ji Man
Lee Jae Jin
Han Sang Hoon
Cho Gun Woo

7.macau
Lam Chi Man
Chan Io Chong
Lei Kit
Mou Chi Keong
Ng Man Chon
Ho Si Un

8.malaysia
Lee Chong Wei
Hashim Muhd Hafiz
Wong Choong Hann
Abdul Latif Mohamad Arif
Koo Kien Keat
Tan Boon Heong
Choong Tan Fook
Lee Wan Wah
Abdul Latif Mohd Zakry
Mohd Tazari Mohd Fairuzizuan

9.pakistan
Ali Wajid
Zeeshan Umer
Qamar Ahsan
Muhammad Attique
Azam Rizwan
Ahmad M. Waqas
Sulehri Kashif

10.philippines
Escoses Lloyd
Flores Christopher
Mendez Ralph Ian
Salvaleon Reczon

11.singapore
Susilo Ronald
Lee Yen Hui Kendrick
Chen Yong Zhao Ashton
Tan Wei Kiat Aaron
Wong Zi Liang Derek
Wijaya Hendra
Saputra Hendri Kurniawan
Khoo Kian Teck
Yeo Zhao Jiang Terry

12.sri Lanka
Karunaratne Niluka
Karunaratne Dinuka
Karunaratne Diluka
Karunatilleke Lasitha
Fernando Eranga
Kasun R.s
Jayakody Duminda
Kumarapperuma Chameera
Jayawardena K.g.k.
Dahanayake R.s

13.thailand
Player's Name
Ponsana Boonsak
Sapkulchananart Poompat
Vilailak Pakkawat
Saensomboonsuk Tanongsak
Prapakamol Sudket
Ngensrisuk Phattapol
Anugritayawon Songphon
Panvisa Vas Tesana
Saengsila Nitipong

14.vietnam
Nguyen Tien Minh
Duong Phuong Nam
Nguyen Hoang Hai
Nguyen Quang Minh
Nguyen Huy Giang
Bui Bang Duc
Pham Cao Hieu
Duong Bao Duc
Dao Manh Thang
Tran Thanh Hai