Thomas And Uber Cup Qualifiers - Asian Zone

**champion8** · 02-11-2008, 01:11 AM

i dont understand? if Mlaysia get the 4th place then do asia get the 4th place if England gets the 4th place.

**abedeng** · 02-11-2008, 03:43 AM

If the rankings stay the same, no. England will go through.

However, the final rankings will depend on how many points each individual player amasses during the qualifying competition. In MAS and ENG's case, the 2nd singles and 1st doubles ranking are very close to each other, could easily go the other way if MAS players win their matches and ENG lose theirs.

**vching** · 02-11-2008, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Loh

Hi Brother Din

Why don't you ask the Malaysian authorities to give Ayu Malaysian citizenship? Then we won't have to contend with her at the badminton stadium and be embarrassed when she kept on cheering Malaysia Boleh when Malaysia meets Singapore, instead of the other way round!

u know how hard it is to get a Malaysian citizenship?

**Loh** · 02-11-2008, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by vching

u know how hard it is to get a Malaysian citizenship?

Well ayu is trying very very hard at every tournament where Malaysian players are playing. The day may come.

**hcyong** · 02-12-2008, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by cxytdn

It's a different thing for malaysia to get 4th place..............

If MAS gets 4th place, the likelihood that Asia will get 4 slots is still rather high. What is the likelihood of ENG actually getting 4th place? Fortunately for MAS, the European competition finishes first, so they will know exactly what placing they need to qualify.

Still, I give MAS only about 60% chance of getting any position in the top four.

**hcyong** · 02-12-2008, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by Loh

Well ayu is trying very very hard at every tournament where Malaysian players are playing. The day may come.

Why do you need to be a Malaysian to support the Malaysian badminton team? In that case, a lot of football fans will have to convert to Brazilian citizenship.

**Loh** · 02-12-2008, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by hcyong

Why do you need to be a Malaysian to support the Malaysian badminton team? In that case, a lot of football fans will have to convert to Brazilian citizenship.

When your own country is playing against another and your countryman is not supporting your own country but the opponents openly instead, in my opinion, this is very bad for morale and simply lacks patriotism. If other countrymen also follow suit, then what will become of one's country's nationalism.

In a difficult situation when I also like the opponent country, I ought to be diplomatic and keep neutral and not cheer openly for the opponents for all to see. It will be a great embarrassment if one did so.

If one does not support one's own country and be proud of its achievements, who will readily take one's place? Then one might as well be a citizen of another country that one feels proud of.

It is different when one's own country is not involved.

**huangkwokhau** · 02-12-2008, 08:51 AM

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....

**tjl_vanguard** · 02-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....

reli?? i tot ZM already started playin representing HK.. y cant she play in Uber yet??

**huangkwokhau** · 02-12-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by tjl_vanguard

reli?? i tot ZM already started playin representing HK.. y cant she play in Uber yet??

I am not really clear....I believe that she has not stayed in HKG for 2 yrs yet...just been told when I had dinner

**edwin** · 02-12-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

I am not really clear....I believe that she has not stayed in HKG for 2 yrs yet...just been told when I had dinner

You may want to verify with your source, as Uber/Thomas cup criteria is not as strict as the Olympic Games or the Asian Games.

I remember in 2000, Agus Haryanto, Njoto, and Wang Chen all played for HK in the Thomas/Uber Cup. Wang Chen was in HK for less than a year. Haryanto and Njoto may not have been in HK for 2 years as well (at least Njoto was not allowed to play in 2004 Olympics 4 years afterwards)

**huangkwokhau** · 02-12-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by edwin

You may want to verify with your source, as Uber/Thomas cup criteria is not as strict as the Olympic Games or the Asian Games.

I remember in 2000, Agus Haryanto, Njoto, and Wang Chen all played for HK in the Thomas/Uber Cup. Wang Chen was in HK for less than a year. Haryanto and Njoto may not have been in HK for 2 years as well (at least Njoto was not allowed to play in 2004 Olympics 4 years afterwards)

mY sources? from HK players....actually I am shocked also.....even Alroy Tanama Putra was not sure if he would be allowed but since they are leaving on sunday, I guess he is playing....thats what I mean..I am not clear....

**hcyong** · 02-12-2008, 09:43 PM

Olympics is very strict. You have to be a citizen AND (if you have converted citizenship) you must also have lived in that country for a number of years.

BWF is not that strict but there are still some requirements.

**abedeng** · 02-12-2008, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....

If ZM is not eligible, than HK world team ranking should be adjusted to cater for that.

The ranking is based on the strength of the WS squad, that's why HK is above Korea.

**huangkwokhau** · 02-12-2008, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by abedeng

If ZM is not eligible, than HK world team ranking should be adjusted to cater for that.

The ranking is based on the strength of the WS squad, that's why HK is above Korea.

As I am writing, HKG has not decided who will be 3rd single....I hope we will know more by Friday who will be going...I know that HGK will try Wang Chen/Yip as 2nd WD...

One of HKG players told me that there is some changes regarding the rules but I have not seen in BWF website....

**huangkwokhau** · 02-13-2008, 08:13 AM

In 1st simulation between Singapore and Djarum club as follows:

1. Men competition
SIn def Djarum 3-2
Singapore won all 3 singles and lost all doubles to Djarum

2.Women competition

SIN def Djarum 3-2
Singapore won 1 single ( Maria Elfira lost) and won 2 doubles but Djarum won 2 singles

I do not have the scores..

The 2nd simulation will be on Feb 15..

Singapore has a lot to do if they want to qualify toJakarta...

**edwin** · 02-13-2008, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

mY sources? from HK players....actually I am shocked also.....even Alroy Tanama Putra was not sure if he would be allowed but since they are leaving on sunday, I guess he is playing....thats what I mean..I am not clear....

My appologies. When you first said that you were not very clear, I thought it's because there something is fishy about your source. But now that you've mentioned that your sources are from HK players, I now know that your information should be very accurate. Sorry about that.

If ZM is indeed not allowed to play, I hope to see Mong Kwun Yi playing HK's 3rd singles and get more international exposure. I thought she did OK when she played against Tracey Hallam during last year's HK Open.

From your other post, I will say it's very interesting that Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin will play 2nd doubles. Chan Chi Choi must have enough faith for Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah to be able to get some points from the 1st doubles. Koon Wai Chee/Wang Chen have won many key victories in doubles during team events, and this the reason why HK did well in Uber Cup, Sudirman Cup, and the Asian Games back in the early 2000's.