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  • Park Joo Bong

    43 3.85%
  • Kim Dong Moon

    22 1.97%
  • Kim Moon Soo

    5 0.45%
  • Rexy Mainaky

    30 2.69%
  • Tony Gunawan

    172 15.41%
  • Hendra Setiawen

    127 11.38%
  • Cai Yun

    264 23.66%
  • Koo KK

    192 17.20%
  • Jens Eriksen

    19 1.70%
  • Sigit Budiarto

    59 5.29%
  • Lee Yong Dae

    174 15.59%
  • Christian Hadinata

    9 0.81%
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    yupper.
    LYD does well in XD MAINLY because he has a very strong lady partner, she is tall, strong, can give and take the hammering. I bet if LYD get a lady partner like vita, natsir, sara lee, gail emms, kellogg, LYD's success story would be written VERY DIFFERENTLY. Just look back at all the consistently successful XD pairs, they have lady partner like gao ling, ra, ge fei. Having a look male partner is good but having a very good lady partner can make the male player looks really really good.
    This guy looks having no idea with whom LYD got his junior championship and some other senior titles in XD... and MD...
    Last edited by narnia; 10-25-2008 at 03:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    well, if the problem is that easy to fix, i think rexy should let kkk/tbh gell and play their own style. It seem the more rexy try to improve this pair, the worst they get. Rexy should remember why and how kkk/tbh were successful in the early years, and hone on those attributes. If this work out, Cooler would demand a datukship from malaysia
    FYI, KKK's chances have gone... no more super series titles since late 2007(even harder to get to SF). Just watch the game KKK/TBH vs JJS/LYD in the last TC. His plays were all read by JJS. Especially, MAS's moves are totally analyzed by KORs. See the uncles against KORs.

    Last edited by narnia; 10-25-2008 at 03:37 AM.

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    Default Tony Gunawan's age is gone now...

    Even though you guys miss him... He's now old enough.
    Can't follow younger players.

    TG/CW always lose the game if it goes to the rubber set.
    He's gonna be a US citizen in a couple of years to represent America
    but it's too old to play at 2012 Olympics. We only can remember him
    only in the videos, no more on TV.

    Just look ahead to the new rising sun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    well, if the problem is that easy to fix, i think rexy should let kkk/tbh gell and play their own style. It seem the more rexy try to improve this pair, the worst they get. Rexy should remember why and how kkk/tbh were successful in the early years, and hone on those attributes. If this work out, Cooler would demand a datukship from malaysia
    There is some truth to this...

    Please change your log-in name to Datuk Cooler

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    Default Cai Yun's age also gone

    CY/FHF recently splitted up. Although it could be temporary... the highest times for the partnership has gone now as we saw it at the Olympic Final and at the 2008 TC Final. They can't win over the number 1 and number 3 any more, they know it. Especially, Cai Yun's moves at the net has been read totally by the players and he does not show any improvement in his skills.

    In short, CY, KKK, and TG's ages have just gone... their skills are now only dropping or keeping the status quo... no more improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    There is some truth to this...

    Please change your log-in name to Datuk Cooler
    One thinng I can't understand is that...

    Malaysians always blame Rexy when the players lose the games. Just accept the truth... the players have problem not Rexy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    well, if the problem is that easy to fix, i think rexy should let kkk/tbh gell and play their own style. It seem the more rexy try to improve this pair, the worst they get. Rexy should remember why and how kkk/tbh were successful in the early years, and hone on those attributes. If this work out, Cooler would demand a datukship from malaysia
    what if this doesnt works out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by narnia View Post
    One thinng I can't understand is that...

    Malaysians always blame Rexy when the players lose the games. Just accept the truth... the players have problem not Rexy...
    hello, did u read the Malaysia newspaper??
    when did u see malaysians always blame rexy when all the players under his charge lost?
    always the players who got the blame because its them who playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by narnia View Post

    In short, CY, KKK, and TG's ages have just gone... their skills are now only dropping or keeping the status quo... no more improvement.
    as for CY or TG perhaps, i think maybe because of their age factor, there will be no improvement anymore..
    as for KKK/, erm...have u heard before practice makes perfect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    as for CY or TG perhaps, i think maybe because of their age factor, there will be no improvement anymore..
    as for KKK/, erm...have u heard before practice makes perfect?
    of course, we all have heard it before.
    matter of fact, that statement applies to ANY players
    why kkk's so special??

    If he isn't near perfect, why does he deserve to be in the poll's list and was voted as top 3 best frontman? This guy is still under repair...
    Last edited by cooler; 10-26-2008 at 02:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    of course, we all have heard it before.
    matter of fact, that statement applies to ANY players
    why kkk's so special??

    If he isn't near perfect, why does he deserve to be in the poll's list and was voted as top 3 best frontman? This guy is still under repair...
    yeah, this kkk is still under construction..
    construction in progress

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    Alright then. My humble question...
    Who is the best frontman in Men's doubles now?

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    The best frontman in MD now is Hendra Setiawan,ofcourse..
    He is current world number one MD.
    He is current World Champion.
    He is current Olympic Champion too..

    IMO ^__^

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    Quote Originally Posted by abesadi View Post
    The best frontman in MD now is Hendra Setiawan,ofcourse..
    He is current world number one MD.
    He is current World Champion.
    He is current Olympic Champion too..

    IMO ^__^
    yeah well, that makes sense...but comparing HS to TG, he's still one MD world championship title behind (with a different partner of course)...
    i highly doubt that HS/CY/KKK/LYD can win a world champ title with Howard Bach as their partner (no offense to Bach)...its just that their partners are at least equally as strong as them at the net...
    but back to the matter at hand, TG is a LEGEND...the best front man player NOW is probably HS...greatest of all time is definetly TG

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    Default ^^Summed it up pretty well..^^

    ..accomplishment-wise, to compare Hendra & Tony, the latter has won all the "major" titles at least once (Olympics, World Championship and All England. And yes, all with different partners):
    Gold Medalist 2000 Sydney Olympic (with Candra Wijaya)
    Gold Medalist 2001 World Champion (with Halim Haryanto)
    Gold Medalist 2005 World Champion (with Howard Bach)
    Gold Medalist 1999 All England (with Candra Wijaya)
    Gold Medalist 2001 All England (with Halim Haryanto)
    in addition to his Thomas Cup win..

    ..but now, as time passes by, it's a different story..But if Hendra is to equal those greats, in terms of winning those 3 "major" titles at least once, then perhaps next yr he could win the All-England with Markis..

    A bit of quick history:
    ...overall in Men's Doubles, Park Joo Bong, Kim Dong Moon and Tony G. are all on equal ground, in terms of winning the 3 "major" tourneys (AE, WC & Olympics)...Of the 3 players, PJB actually won more of those 3 "major" titles than both KDM and Tony combined. So, it's very debatable if one is to say Tony is "the greatest of all time" (besides, Tony never won those 3 "major" titles in XD)..
    *Tony was part of the Thomas Cup winning team & the World Badminton Grand Prix MD champions (2x) whilst the other 2 didn't..
    **PJB won the Asian Games MD title whilst the other 2 didn't..
    ***To sum it up, only PJB and KDM have won both events (MD & XD), in those 3 "major" tourneys, after the inclusion of the Olympics (in 1992)..
    Last edited by ctjcad; 10-26-2008 at 12:10 PM.

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    Default Just want to add..

    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ...
    A bit of quick history:
    ...overall in Men's Doubles, Park Joo Bong, Kim Dong Moon and Tony G. are all on equal ground, in terms of winning the 3 "major" tourneys (AE, WC & Olympics)...
    ..of course, Rexy's name in the list with those 3...Couldn't be in his position now if he didn't accomplish those 3 "major" titles as well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by abesadi View Post
    The best frontman in MD now is Hendra Setiawan,ofcourse..
    He is current world number one MD.
    He is current World Champion.
    He is current Olympic Champion too..

    IMO ^__^
    that is very logical and sensible if we r talking about presently, cooler has no prob. with that However, TG still can be the top one currently if he has the pocket rocket kido behind him
    Last edited by cooler; 10-26-2008 at 04:34 PM.

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