View Poll Results: Best frontman in men's doubles
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Park Joo Bong
Kim Dong Moon
Kim Moon Soo
Lee Yong Dae
10-27-2008, 12:34 AM #290
10-27-2008, 01:48 AM #291
Last edited by cooler; 10-27-2008 at 01:55 AM.
10-27-2008, 01:59 AM #292
Cooler, have u seen KDM and and PJB in action? Just need to confirm, before you can call them not great frontmen, period. LYD is not an MD frontman, I agree, but KDM and PJB play frontmen in MD and were very good at it.
10-27-2008, 02:03 AM #293
Only Tony (the tiger) can say................They're Grrrrreat!!!!!
(tony's older commercials were better but not in youtube)
Last edited by cooler; 10-27-2008 at 02:11 AM.
10-27-2008, 02:15 AM #294
10-27-2008, 02:21 AM #295
in this MD rally, u can see how tony's great coaching skills and front coverage turn the game around and set up his rear partner (howard??)for the final kill. LOLOL
Last edited by cooler; 10-27-2008 at 02:32 AM.
10-27-2008, 02:38 AM #296
10-27-2008, 07:50 AM #297
No disputing Tony's genius. Then again, at his time and now, training has become more specialized and the new generations of players benefit from this to allow for more distinct specialization.
Yet Park Joo Bong was an All-England semifinalist at age 17 in 1982. He is so adaptable, he could play with practically anyone and be a credible threat, something that does not happen when any other MD player plays with anyone else other than his regular partner.
In the 1992 Thomas Cup, Park partnered a visibly injured Sun Han Kook and still managed to beat the Sidek brothers at their home den in straight games ..... . I know, I was there.
And to imagine that the Sideks alongside Tian Bingyi/Li Yongbo were among the strongest challenges to Park and his regular partner Kim Moon Soo.
10-27-2008, 09:50 AM #298
10-27-2008, 10:01 AM #299
one correction though, nova is actually 'the' play maker if he was to play in MD, a great frontman to fish for short lifts...compared to ZJ, ZB, and XZB, his smashes are that hard, but deadly when it comes to soft, delicate touches...
10-27-2008, 08:24 PM #300
To counter your claims:
1. Tony G. had won more titles than pjb from their career
2. For a successful XD pair, that mean the guy spent the most time at the back girl at the front. No competitive XD team can be successful if they play the other way around as their dominance formation.
3. Your example of pjb pairing with injured sun han kook and beating the sidek brother CLEARLY SHOWED PJB IS NOT A GREAT FRONTMAN PLAYER. Any MD coach, including pjb himself, knows that the best way to play this hand is to have the injured sun han kook play like XD, i.e. sun han kook to hover around the net and Pjb do the running and jumpsmashing at the back. NO SENSIBLE DOUBLE TEAM WOULD PUT THEIR WEAKER PARTNER AT THE BACK by choice.
You should start a 'Best rear man' player in MD. I would vote pjb. Happy now???
Last edited by cooler; 10-27-2008 at 08:28 PM.
10-27-2008, 11:54 PM #301
10-28-2008, 12:20 AM #302
The MD game during Park's time was a lot more technical than during Tony's time and at present. After Park retired, newer players like Cheah Soon Kit, Rexy, Sigit and the rest concentrate on more power and speed, the technical aspect was pretty much lost. And now the PPR system made MD rallies much too short for anything other than even more power and speed .
Once in a blue moon you get technically adept players like Hendra Setiawan or Koo Kien Kiat (when he's not fanciful), but that's once in a blue moon and I don't think they are as good as Park yet.
Whether or not your judgement or mine is flawed, is not of concern ..... Park is my pick, Tony is yours. These are based from our individual observations, we cannot agree and let that matter rest.
10-28-2008, 12:53 AM #303
To say sigit is a power player show your understanding of the game. Sigit is a creative and deceptive player first. He is top in making trick shots.
Last edited by cooler; 10-28-2008 at 01:04 AM.
10-28-2008, 01:10 AM #304
10-28-2008, 01:16 AM #305
Some videos of the 2 hotly debated contestants..
..okay, for those confused or wondering about Park Joo Bong's game and Tony's game, here are video links of the 2 athletes..enjoy!
..Park Joo Bong (if not mistaken during his peak yrs @ the 1990 AE MD Final; btw, love those tight short shorts):
...and Tony G. (during his peak yrs @ the 2000 Olympics MD Gold Match; the first video opens with a wild & breathtaking 1 minute rally..Great match & crowd support, btw!!):
Last edited by ctjcad; 10-28-2008 at 01:22 AM.
10-28-2008, 01:36 AM #306
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