Who's the best player at the net?

[cooler]

that is kim dong moon and ha tae kwon. who is tkh???
and fyi, nobody mentioned halim hariyanto... he did one very good shot in that particular match, which is the 2001 world championships finals.
the polls is not a good bench mark.

i got ha tae confused with tae ha.
i assumed that everyone watching the video knows tony's partner was halim.
IMO, the poll is pretty accurate, that's why i said the poll wasnt necessary
Halim is a great smasher but this thread is about best frontman.

[wilfredlgf]

that is kim dong moon and ha tae kwon. who is tkh???

Tan Kim Her?

and fyi, nobody mentioned halim hariyanto... he did one very good shot in that particular match, which is the 2001 world championships finals.
the polls is not a good bench mark.

Halim is no way near as good as Tony in front - he's pretty lethal from the back though.

[cooler]

Tan Kim Her?

No, it's Tae Ha Him

My tkh was thot to meant tae kwan ha

[Wong8Egg]

I wonder why also korea's Ha, Kim DM, older Lee and Yu are not in the polls, between them they won many WCs,All Engs, and Ogs for all time front men.

Exactly, I see so many people wanted to vote for KDM but he is not on the list.

And guess what, he is 2 times OG champs!!!

[molohov]

KDM! KDM! KDM! no seriously i think he is the best netman ever. he's pretty vicious from the back of the court too.

[cooler]

Exactly, I see so many people wanted to vote for KDM but he is not on the list.

And guess what, he is 2 times OG champs!!!

title wise, i think TG has won more tournaments.

[Wong8Egg]

title wise, i think TG has won more tournaments.

Perhaps, but surely more than many of the other candidates in the poll.

[cappy75]

Cai Yun and KKK over KDM? Guess everybody forgets about you when you're out of the limelight. Only time will tell who's the best.

[koo_fan]

although i dont really familiar with Kim Dong Moon.but based on thoughts here,i think he got something special then.

Any proves that he is really good netman or frontman?
Graphically perhaps?

[JasonMichael]

I can bet that if you put kim dong moon vs park joo bong at the net, park joo bong will win it outright.
but it will be a good fight with Tony.

although i dont really familiar with Kim Dong Moon.but based on thoughts here,i think he got something special then.

Any proves that he is really good netman or frontman?
Graphically perhaps?

[molohov]

although i dont really familiar with Kim Dong Moon.but based on thoughts here,i think he got something special then.

Any proves that he is really good netman or frontman?
Graphically perhaps?

the AE 2000 MD final is a pretty good example. i don't know where you could find it.

[abedeng]

I can bet that if you put kim dong moon vs park joo bong at the net, park joo bong will win it outright.
but it will be a good fight with Tony.

As u say it will be a good fight (Tony vs Park). Park will still win, though ......

[wilfredlgf]

Not really though, does it? Tony has a lot more creativity and flair whilst KDM is more tactically adept. Both would probably tie it, depending on who the partners are.

[cooler]

Not really though, does it? Tony has a lot more creativity and flair whilst KDM is more tactically adept. Both would probably tie it, depending on who the partners are.

in this instance, i see the same way.
MD korean players are like robots, they have excellent strokes but somewhat predictable shots(IMO). Tony (and other INA players) have more variety and creativity of shots. In Tony's case, he has both quality of shots and creativity of shots.

[abedeng]

MD korean players are like robots, they have excellent strokes but somewhat predictable shots(IMO). Tony (and other INA players) have more variety and creativity of shots. In Tony's case, he has both quality of shots and creativity of shots.

Not Park Joo Bong, though. He had creativity and flair. Came through at at 17 when Korea was not yet a force in badminton.

Though I agree that from KDM onwards, the players are more like robots. Probably the Korean training regime is based more on sports science, where to hit, how much pace, what angle etc. Practically any well-rounded athlete could be "built" into a world beater.

INA's training regime is different, flair and creativity is always encouraged. But this system requires emphasis on individual talent. Thus you have Tony, Sigit, Ricky, possibly Hendra Setiawan in future.

[wilfredlgf]

Not Park Joo Bong, though. He had creativity and flair. Came through at at 17 when Korea was not yet a force in badminton.

That is exactly why he is one of the best during his time - the mechanical rigidity of tactics mated with flair and superb technical skills.

I agree with the mechanical vs creative players bit - pros and cons both of them.

[cooler]

Not Park Joo Bong, though. He had creativity and flair. Came through at at 17 when Korea was not yet a force in badminton.

yes, i agree there are a few korean exception and PJB is a standout one.

Though I agree that from KDM onwards, the players are more like robots. Probably the Korean training regime is based more on sports science, where to hit, how much pace, what angle etc. Practically any well-rounded athlete could be "built" into a world beater.
yes, i see the new generation korean players execute shots like doing tae kwan do, karate and japanese sword fighting.

INA's training regime is different, flair and creativity is always encouraged. But this system requires emphasis on individual talent. Thus you have Tony, Sigit, Ricky, possibly Hendra Setiawan in future.

If one look at the poll list of nominated players, all of them, except tony, had done well only with their life time partner. Tony has shown to us that he can do well with various partners. I leave u with this question, if u take out tony G from the list of above nominees, which other MD players that could partner with howard bach to a major championship?