User Tag List

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 LastLast
Results 52 to 68 of 111
  1. #52
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    indonesia
    Posts
    27
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i think trick n deceptive is the same
    isn't we use trick shot to deceive our opp?

  2. #53
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    London
    Posts
    119
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    actually that's a good question. To my mind, if you hit the shuttle from between your legs--that's a 'trick' shot. It tends to be something you do in desperation. But deception--that's something you do when you have time to choose a shot. There are all kinds--from making all one's overhead shots (drops, clears, smashes) look the same, to the gade-esque net shots. These all rely on deceiving the opponent into thinking you are going to do a particular action by following the usual motions, then at the last minute doing something different.

    I don't quite like this definition, but I'm thinking of gillian clark's comments on the sigit-chandra v gunawan-hadiyanto game when she talked of sigit and gunawan doing 'trick shots', referring to sigit's taking the shuttle between the legs and gunawan taking shots behind him. But to me these shots are only 'tricks' because they're rarely seen, and they're desperate. They don't really 'trick' the opponent, they are carnival actions.

  3. #54
    Regular Member george@chongwei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    MIA
    Posts
    29,950
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Exclamation

    Quote Originally Posted by xXazn_romeoXx View Post
    how about this video??

  4. #55
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Posts
    819
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    how about this video??
    i know ehhh you don't take the shuttle much more later than that....EVER!...i've been trying this shot out, but so far, no luck i realize how much hand eye coordination and balance he has to hit a shot like that lol

  5. #56
    Regular Member george@chongwei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    MIA
    Posts
    29,950
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    how about this video??
    sorry, i forgot to paste the link..
    here is the link>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV8hk...eature=related

  6. #57
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississauga, Canada
    Posts
    686
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    tricks and deceptive shots are the same. it has the same purpose to decieve the player into something than it really is. shots like pulling back to decieve a drop or last minute wrist flick are examples of trick shots designed to confuse the player.

    however, shots like hidyat or sigit... when they counter a smash behind their back or between their legs... these are shots of desperation... and the purpose of desperation shots is that it was a last minute mind change, if they had the time they would of made the shot in a different. so chen hong's shot was desperate.

  7. #58
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississauga, Canada
    Posts
    686
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    sorry, i forgot to paste the link..
    here is the link>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV8hk...eature=related
    Peter Gade's trademark shot! everyone knows it's Gade's.
    that's a deceptive shot, he had all the time in the world to do anything with this shuttle but he decided at match point to pull this one off. definitely not a shot of desperation.

  8. #59
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississauga, Canada
    Posts
    686
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    hahaha look at this doubles deceptive shot!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k6fIKP6ZFY&NR=1

  9. #60
    Regular Member george@chongwei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    MIA
    Posts
    29,950
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    wtf!!
    this video!!
    unbelievable!!!!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuShf...eature=related

  10. #61
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississauga, Canada
    Posts
    686
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    wtf!!
    this video!!
    unbelievable!!!!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuShf...eature=related
    lee chong wei looks so short. how tall is he?

  11. #62
    Regular Member george@chongwei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    MIA
    Posts
    29,950
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    he is like 1.74 m like that

  12. #63
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    London
    Posts
    119
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jchan04 View Post
    tricks and deceptive shots are the same. it has the same purpose to decieve the player into something than it really is. shots like pulling back to decieve a drop or last minute wrist flick are examples of trick shots designed to confuse the player.

    however, shots like hidyat or sigit... when they counter a smash behind their back or between their legs... these are shots of desperation... and the purpose of desperation shots is that it was a last minute mind change, if they had the time they would of made the shot in a different. so chen hong's shot was desperate.
    yeah I agree with that. I was trying to say that gillian clark often characterises those 'desperation' shots as "trick shots", but to me they aren't really trick shots at all. At the same time, I dislike the term "trick shot" because it doesn't really seem to cover (for example) overhead shots which are highly deceptive. So I prefer to talk of deceptive shots than trick shots.

  13. #64
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Beijing,Guilin,K.L & Jakarta
    Posts
    3,988
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Since i never really saw hendrawan's play..i would vote for PG,Sigit.B for now then..Hehe..eager to watch some videos of hendrawan..

    Anyone r willing to share?

  14. #65
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Penang, Malaysia
    Posts
    2,550
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    wtf!!
    this video!!
    unbelievable!!!!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuShf...eature=related
    @&%^&$!*&%$!^$#*&!...........he retrieved those shots like he's just a character inside a video game, so easy.........[command: press left/right + press button A] PRO GILE!!! Now i know why he's so good at defense.

  15. #66
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississauga, Canada
    Posts
    686
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by alfa-2 View Post
    @&%^&$!*&%$!^$#*&!...........he retrieved those shots like he's just a character inside a video game, so easy.........[command: press left/right + press button A] PRO GILE!!! Now i know why he's so good at defense.
    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    wtf!!
    this video!!
    unbelievable!!!!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuShf...eature=related
    oh returning those smashes aren't that special tho... a lot of practice can get you there. I mean like he's doing it to practice. Like in tournaments, I've dive for shot before when playing mixed doubles. I remember i was smashing from the right-side of the court straight down and it returned to the left-deep end and so i had to launch myself from middle court and then i dived for it for that extra reach... oh man i had a bad knee scrap that day. Also do you notice that the player smashing is left-handed, like the two back court players are left handed... and you know what that means? Lee Chong Wei is preparing for Lin Dan... wow!

  16. #67
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    1,611
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    wtf!!
    this video!!
    unbelievable!!!!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuShf...eature=related
    Wow, those are not trick shots, it is a super human with super fast response and retrieve ability.

  17. #68
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Basement Boiler Room
    Posts
    22,118
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    lol, that was misbun walking pass the video

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. trick shots
    By Jono Frog in forum Techniques / Training
    Replies: 53
    : 07-23-2013, 07:47 PM
  2. trick shots
    By nobrained loser in forum Techniques / Training
    Replies: 11
    : 02-07-2010, 05:51 AM
  3. Razor Trick
    By twobeer in forum Badminton Rackets / Equipment
    Replies: 2
    : 04-21-2008, 10:17 AM
  4. trick shots..help
    By Quinton Burrows in forum Techniques / Training
    Replies: 6
    : 04-03-2007, 04:51 AM
  5. www.yonex.com Just a lil trick...
    By Byro-Nenium in forum Badminton Rackets / Equipment
    Replies: 0
    : 04-14-2001, 06:04 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •