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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    there is another thread about the WISE + shuttle express:

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...nging-Machine/

    there is one member who had a custom base plate made for his shuttle express. i think it is still possible to do without it by mounting the leg pieces lower.
    That's an interesting thread. Which gives me an idea. ibobone, can drill the tension rail, then remove the bracket alltogether. There are two options to this, however. The bracket which the Wise 2086 mounts to, is angled, if not corrected the tension head will not be perpendicular to the stringbed, but it's not really a big issue since it will still pull linearly away. The other option is to drill and tap at an angle.

    As for me, I'd rather not modify parts in a way that they can not be used the original way they were designed to be used. Unless it's faulty design. Like the original diablo that came with the Wise 2086. The original diablo would loosen uncrewing it from the mount. My solution:


    Herb Wise, eventually redesigned the diablo, due to numerous complaints. To the updated daiblo:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    That's an interesting thread. Which gives me an idea. ibobone, can drill the tension rail, then remove the bracket alltogether. There are two options to this, however. The bracket which the Wise 2086 mounts to, is angled, if not corrected the tension head will not be perpendicular to the stringbed, but it's not really a big issue since it will still pull linearly away. The other option is to drill and tap at an angle.
    that doesn't seem to be the case with my WISE. the outter part is angled, but the mounting will be done at the inner groove, which is perpendicular.

    i hope i am correctly interpreting/understanding what you said.

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    btw, Covina, is that the latest WISE? can you post pic of the gripper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    btw, Covina, is that the latest WISE? can you post pic of the gripper?
    The latest Wise griper and Diablo are not conducive to badminton stringing. The gripper is a bit too far recessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    that doesn't seem to be the case with my WISE. the outter part is angled, but the mounting will be done at the inner groove, which is perpendicular.

    i hope i am correctly interpreting/understanding what you said.
    The threaded part of bracket is also angled. If you were to mount the Wise 2086 without adjusting for the angle it would look like this:

    See how this mount is not flush. (this is a picture of a friend's wise to an Alpha Equinox)

    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    btw, Covina, is that the latest WISE? can you post pic of the gripper?
    The latest series has a trigger/switch on the end of the gripper head. As seen here in the stock photo:


    Stock Diablo/Nosecone:
    Last edited by CovinaStringer; 02-08-2011 at 04:17 PM.

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    Covina & Kwun,
    Thanks for your prompt response. I tried to take couple pictures to show you my problem. It seems the my pilot bar is wider while the high looks ok. Let me know what you think. Should I modify the width
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibobone View Post
    Covina & Kwun,
    Thanks for your prompt response. I tried to take couple pictures to show you my problem. It seems the my pilot bar is wider while the high looks ok. Let me know what you think. Should I modify the width
    a potential solution is to build your own mounting plate.

    it can just be a simple rectangular steel plate.

    take off the WISE original mounting, use the new plate, mount it in the same place at the original mounting, then mount the plate onto your pilot's bar.

    both can be fasten with just a couple of hole and screws.

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    That's pretty thick! But the nice thing about that is it won't flex as much. My Gamma flexes about an inch each way from the end. How many screws hold the toothed track?

    You can sort of do what kwun suggested, remove the bracket and place the Wise 2086 directly on the tension bar. Then mark and drill holes on the tension bar. But the result will be a slightly tilted Wise 2086 like my friend's machine.

    My way would be using the a bar that would fit the bracket then using a spacer block or washers use the exsisting screw holes that hold the toothed rail to the tension bar. If the tension bar were slightly shorter you would not need the spacer and bolt directly to the tension bar removing the toothed rail. I wish I was better at ACAD to give you an example.

    A third way is a combination of mine and kwun, find a bar of aluminum plate the same thickness of the Wise. Drill and tap threads to match the mounting holes. Then drill holes to match the threaded holes of the tension rail, where the toothed rail was attached to but on the other side.

    The least desireable way is to grind down the side of tension bar, but that may look ugly and take off the hard chrome finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    I know this is a late reply, and you pro baby know what the "7" means by now. For others reading this may be helpful. The "7" code means it reach the end of the track but has not reached the reference tension. Basically it mean there is too much slack in the string or it did not grip the string properly and reached the end of the track. If you press the trigger without any string it will give you a "7"

    If you get a "3" it's a bad thing, and the unit will need to be serviced.

    Also if anyone needs calibration instruction, I have them. Just PM me. One Caveat though, you must have a reliable calibrator or force gauge to properly calibrate the 2086 Pro.
    please be sure you do a proper calibration.
    by default it is auto-calibration.
    "7" and error 7 is two different thing.
    if you get any error from 1 to 9, then yours need to be serviced.
    and for the people in Malaysia, you can send your machine to me for servicing, my address as per mentioned in here : http://www.tennishead.com/international.html (look for Malaysia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibobone View Post
    Covina & Kwun,
    Thanks for your prompt response. I tried to take couple pictures to show you my problem. It seems the my pilot bar is wider while the high looks ok. Let me know what you think. Should I modify the width
    normally it should be 7 mm thickness, but some machine has 8 or 9mm thickness.
    you can go to local shop, and ask them to make adapter wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    The latest Wise griper and Diablo are not conducive to badminton stringing. The gripper is a bit too far recessed.
    yup, just use a string pack and put it into the gripper for badminton ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    please be sure you do a proper calibration.
    by default it is auto-calibration.
    "7" and error 7 is two different thing.
    if you get any error from 1 to 9, then yours need to be serviced.
    and for the people in Malaysia, you can send your machine to me for servicing, my address as per mentioned in here : http://www.tennishead.com/international.html (look for Malaysia).
    What's the difference between a "7" and error 7? Care to enlighten us, Tennishead dealer?

    To be exact it's "7." is reached end error. I've had the dredded "3." error and needed to have the limit sensor replaced. I don't remember if the "3." was blinking or not, if there is a difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    normally it should be 7 mm thickness, but some machine has 8 or 9mm thickness.
    you can go to local shop, and ask them to make adapter wider.
    Too bad Herb Wise is too cheap to offer a bracket for machines that have 8 or 9mm thicknesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    What's the difference between a "7" and error 7? Care to enlighten us, Tennishead dealer?

    To be exact it's "7." is reached end error. I've had the dredded "3." error and needed to have the limit sensor replaced. I don't remember if the "3." was blinking or not, if there is a difference.

    Too bad Herb Wise is too cheap to offer a bracket for machines that have 8 or 9mm thicknesses.
    since you said you have the calibration instruction, so you must have the error-code list, because it is at similar paper-sheet

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    yup, just use a string pack and put it into the gripper for badminton ....
    No Sir, not the gripper's ability to grab the badminton string, that's been fixed since early 2009. Panda is talking about the location of the gripper.

    Though it may not look like much in the image below, an extra 3"+ of string is needed for the way Panda strings. It's significant and adds about 2-5 minutes of time to the total stringing process (depending how Panda sets up the pre-weave).

    On another note, the Wise 2086 is the best piece of badminton related equipment this Panda has purchased.

    Major benefits:

    1) It pulls true and with great ease.

    2) The gripper is ideal on badminton string, doesn't hurt it.

    3) Very reliable if properly taken care of.
    Panda has strung over 1,000 rackets on the Wise now with no problems.
    The Wise at SGVBC has strung over 5,000 rackets and had to be serviced once only because the string caught in the inside railing (not the machine's fault).

    If Panda was going to "create" his ultimate badminton stringing machine, he would still get the Wise head unit and modify a Victor C-7027 to suit Panda's badminton needs. The Wise is that good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    since you said you have the calibration instruction, so you must have the error-code list, because it is at similar paper-sheet
    My instructions were copied/transposed to a txt file. I don't have the error codes, but I can probably get them.

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    I have the error 2 code I think. Anyone know how to fix it without sending it all the way to california?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete LSD View Post
    I have the error 2 code I think. Anyone know how to fix it without sending it all the way to california?
    Bring it with you when you come to Panda's Cave:

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...=1#post1621073

    And we can drive over to Herb's place (owner of Tennishead) and swap it physically.

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