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    Default Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Detailed Review: Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Thanks to Michal Chudek for making these supports for Panda.

    Conclusion: The Chudek Side Supports (CSS) (as Panda calls them) are first-rate.

    MarkA first receive his CSSs and told Panda, for the money, there is no better support. Mark had absolutely no complaints and needed no additional modifications. This was extremely impressive to Panda considering Mark and Panda have been discussing creating a custom side support specifically for badminton for close to 2 years and each time, some issues arose. Because of Mark's comments, Panda purchased two sets.

    The CSSs are very strong, dense, precise and well made. This is especially true when you consider they are made by hand. After stringing over 100 rackets with the CSSs...they are so good Panda sold his SPT Badminton Mounts.

    Like Mark said, there's nothing to complain about. The only modification Panda did was remove all but one layer of the original yellow heat shrink tubing and added the Watts PVC tubing as you see in the images. With this mod, the CSSs are truly first-rate. Stringing rackets at 30-35lbs. is very simple as the racket doesn't slip, slide, jiggle or wiggle.

    There are no problems with clearance on any of the grommet holes, the height of the supports is ideal. Really, no problems this Panda can think of.

    The only other modification that Panda may do is replace the wing nuts with hexagon ones.

    That's it. If you need some badminton specific side supports or want to improve your stringing, Panda extremely, highly recommends you purchase a set of CSSs. You cannot go wrong.

    Panda will be piecing together a new stringing machine for the new club that's opening in late April 2011 in Pomona, CA (aka SGVBC II) with 20 courts and that machine will be using the CSSs.

    Onto the images:








    Reference: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...=1#post1553250
    Last edited by DinkAlot; 03-05-2011 at 03:50 AM.

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    What are the mounts made of?

    Did the springs on the string clamps come with the clamp?

    I think they make a PVC end cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    What are the mounts made of?

    Did the springs on the string clamps come with the clamp?

    I think they make a PVC end cap.
    Mounts = iron or steel

    Springs = good eye, no the springs were purchase separately

    PVC End Cap = for what? Please clarify, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Mounts = iron or steel

    Springs = good eye, no the springs were purchase separately

    PVC End Cap = for what? Please clarify, thanks.
    Mounts = They look home made.

    Springs = I've been looking for those springs, but can never find a source.

    End Cap = I see those PVC end caps all the time. They are usually on the end of steel round bars to keep them from damaging things. There used to be a long tube (2-3") with a closed end we used to slide over the brake lever on BMX bikes. A quick search found me this site: http://www.stockcap.com/pvc-caps.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Detailed Review: Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Thanks to Michal Chudek for making these supports for Panda.

    Conclusion: The Chudek Side Supports (CSS) (as Panda calls them) are first-rate.

    MarkA first receive his CSSs and told Panda, for the money, there is no better support. Mark had absolutely no complaints and needed no additional modifications. This was extremely impressive to Panda considering Mark and Panda have been discussing creating a custom side support specifically for badminton for close to 2 years and each time, some issues arose. Because of Mark's comments, Panda purchased two sets.

    The CSSs are very strong, dense, precise and well made. This is especially true when you consider they are made by hand. After stringing over 100 rackets with the CSSs...they are so good Panda sold his SPT Badminton Mounts.

    Like Mark said, there's nothing to complain about. The only modification Panda did was remove all but one layer of the original yellow heat shrink tubing and added the Watts PVC tubing as you see in the images. With this mod, the CSSs are truly first-rate. Stringing rackets at 30-35lbs. is very simple as the racket doesn't slip, slide, jiggle or wiggle.

    There are no problems with clearance on any of the grommet holes, the height of the supports is ideal. Really, no problems this Panda can think of.

    The only other modification that Panda may do is replace the wing nuts with hexagon ones.

    That's it. If you need some badminton specific side supports or want to improve your stringing, Panda extremely, highly recommends you purchase a set of CSSs. You cannot go wrong.

    Panda will be piecing together a new stringing machine for the new club that's opening in late April 2011 in Pomona, CA (aka SGVBC II) with 20 courts and that machine will be using the CSSs.

    Onto the images:








    Reference: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...=1#post1553250
    nice review Dink ....
    will you order similar support or with improvement ?
    what would be your new machine ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    nice review Dink ....
    will you order similar support or with improvement ?
    what would be your new machine ?
    Sir, your answer is in the last paragraph before the images.

    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Detailed Review: Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Thanks to Michal Chudek for making these supports for Panda.

    Conclusion: The Chudek Side Supports (CSS) (as Panda calls them) are first-rate...

    ...Panda will be piecing together a new stringing machine for the new club that's opening in late April 2011 in Pomona, CA (aka SGVBC II) with 20 courts and that machine will be using the CSSs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    Mounts = They look home made.
    Yes, as stated, in the review, the mounts are hand-made.

    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    Springs = I've been looking for those springs, but can never find a source.
    That's because they are hard to find. Try your local hobby shop or RadioShack or your best best is online here, probably the best place for technical items, McMaster-Carr:

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#compression-springs/=bb7pxy

    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer;1633343
    End Cap = I see those PVC end caps all the time. They are usually on the end of steel round bars to keep them from damaging things. There used to be a long tube (2-3") with a closed end we used to slide over the brake lever on BMX bikes. A quick search found me this site: [URL
    http://www.stockcap.com/pvc-caps.html[/URL]
    Again, as stated in the review, those are not PVC endcaps, they are heat shrink tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    That's because they are hard to find. Try your local hobby shop or RadioShack or your best best is online here, probably the best place for technical items, McMaster-Carr:

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#compression-springs/=bb7pxy

    I recall someone saying they are 1/2" OD x 7/8" L. I've tried to look for it at McMaster's but some of their stock is limited, and the one that seems to fit are $6.06 each. I think I have a local lead, but I may need to buy a 100 for the same price as 2 from McMasters.


    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Again, as stated in the review, those are not PVC endcaps, they are heat shrink tubing.
    I was talking about the PVC tubing. They also make Silicone end caps and rectangular PVC endcaps that might look better. If you use PVC tubing for it's friction properties, then PVC endcaps may be the solution, though not a cheap one but at least one that looks nice. It's ugly but it works. Just some constructive criticism, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Sir, your answer is in the last paragraph before the images.
    understand Sir, what I meant was what would be your new stringing machine ? brand ? model ?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    understand Sir, what I meant was what would be your new stringing machine ? brand ? model ?
    thanks
    Uncertain yet. In a perfect world: Victor C-7030 (no mods necessary)

    The next best thing: minorly modified Victor C-7027 with Wise Tensioner

    Reality: probably something similar to what Panda current has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Uncertain yet. In a perfect world: Victor C-7030 (no mods necessary)

    The next best thing: minorly modified Victor C-7027 with Wise Tensioner

    Reality: probably something similar to what Panda current has.
    C7030 is no longer in the Victor 2011 catalog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    C7030 is no longer in the Victor 2011 catalog.
    Link/e-mail to the 2011 Victor Catalog please...curious about some other equipment.

    Also, if no more C-7030, then the ExThree AM-600 is the same machine, just different name.

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    $3600 from VictorUSA, I wonder where they ship from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Link/e-mail to the 2011 Victor Catalog please...curious about some other equipment.

    Also, if no more C-7030, then the ExThree AM-600 is the same machine, just different name.
    i have scanned the whole thing. let me see how i can upload it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    $3600 from VictorUSA, I wonder where they ship from?
    i was just there today in RacketSupply, they are Victor USA. and they are located in Cupertino, CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CovinaStringer View Post
    $3600 from VictorUSA, I wonder where they ship from?
    Panda can get it from Victor Taiwan for at least $1,000 less, shipped to the U.S.

    At this point, Panda is still thinking C-7027 with the Wise. Would need to be slightly modded but no big deal. Would save another $1,300 easy.
    Last edited by DinkAlot; 03-06-2011 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i have scanned the whole thing. let me see how i can upload it...
    oh. there is a C7032 which is a replacement of the C7030. a bit larger from the photo.

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