Goodbye Crank and Hello Constant Pull (Wise 2086 aka Tennis Head)

**Pete LSD** · 03-03-2008, 09:28 PM

Wish the TENNIS HEAD offers a set of thicker gripper plates for badminton strings.

**Matt** · 03-03-2008, 09:42 PM

String tension and consistancy if fine for cranks. Unless one has those low ends, then yeah, those will pose a problem but not for high-ends. I've got it done on ECP too, but prefer cranks anyways. One reason is, I don't like overstretch/pre-stretch.

If one does a blind-fold A/B test, no one can tell which one it has been done on, using tension equivalency on both units.

**Pete LSD** · 03-03-2008, 09:47 PM

I do not agree with this statement. I can tell if there is a difference between a CP and a non-adjusted crank string job.

Originally Posted by Matt

If one does a blind-fold A/B test, no one can tell which one it has been done on, using tension equivalency on both units.

**DinkAlot** · 03-03-2008, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

I've got it done on ECP too, but prefer cranks anyways. One reason is, I don't like overstretch/pre-stretch.

You can turn off the pre-stretch option.

**DinkAlot** · 03-03-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Pete LSD

I do not agree with this statement. I can tell if there is a difference between a CP and a non-adjusted crank string job.

Agree, there's definitely a difference but I believe Matt's talking about people who don't string or have experience with stringing.

**Matt** · 03-03-2008, 09:54 PM

I'm talking to people who have experience actually. The differnece isn't that significant as hype claims to be.

**Pete LSD** · 03-03-2008, 09:56 PM

The difference is significant over the life of the string under "your" normal usage.

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm talking to people who have experience actually. The differnece isn't that significant as hype claims to be.

**Matt** · 03-03-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Pete LSD

The difference is significant over the life of the string under "your" normal usage.

So would I notice this "huge" difference if I get someone to string it with a Yonex top of the line machine ^.^.

Show me the numbers.
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**coachgary** · 03-04-2008, 07:32 AM

Was it easy to retro fit to the bar?

**silentheart** · 03-04-2008, 09:22 AM

IMHO, Yonex ESPro is GREAT in every aspect. However, I just can not fine enough chang in my pocket or convince any one to get one even a used/demo one from Yonex. I just don't feel ESPro is worth the money when you can get a machine like our None Greater Panda has and does 98% of the good job and cost 1/7 of the price.

**taneepak** · 03-04-2008, 09:45 AM

How about putting the new machine to this simple stringing job:
Prior to stringing and mounting the empty racquet on the machine measure the length of the racquet from top to butt end. String at 28 to 32 lbs range. At end of job, take the racquet off the machine and measure the racquet length. The 2 lengths should be exactly the same, which should not be beyond this machine. If there is a difference then something is wrong.

**silentheart** · 03-04-2008, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

How about putting the new machine to this simple stringing job:
Prior to stringing and mounting the empty racquet on the machine measure the length of the racquet from top to butt end. String at 28 to 32 lbs range. At end of job, take the racquet off the machine and measure the racquet length. The 2 lengths should be exactly the same, which should not be beyond this machine. If there is a difference then something is wrong.

Why?
As long as the machine is calibrated correctly. Then it become stringer's issue. He/she might have a different requirements or style than you. As far as Sir DinkALot's experience and style, he know what he is doing and does his job well. I do not see your point.
I personally have prob with user friendlyness of the mounting systems and need of swap out fix clamp when I look into a new stringer.
Sorry to disagree with you....

**jerby** · 03-04-2008, 10:42 AM

review after 10-20 frames?

so, somewhere tomorrow I guess?

Love the set-up, what grip did you put on your ChaoPai?

**illusionistpro** · 03-04-2008, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by smash_master

ah alright that makes more sense now i was a little confused there for a second on it. not exactly cheap anymore.

Yea its not cheap cheap but its a great alternative to dropping 1200 usd straight for a top of the line constant pull machine. Additionally Dink said it in another post in the past about a crank being 90+% accurate if you string well. Constant pulls are more like 99% accurate. Its just what you can live with and how accurate and fluid you are stringing with a crank.

And about feeling a difference...
"My stringing tension is between 17-18 kp on normal stringing-machines and 14-15 kp on Babolat professional stringing-machine." Peter Gade
Clearly, there is a difference in the methodos

**Pete LSD** · 03-04-2008, 11:16 AM

US$1,200 can not even get you a complete top of the line stringing machine.

Originally Posted by illusionistpro

Yea its not cheap cheap but its a great alternative to dropping 1200 usd straight for a top of the line constant pull machine. Additionally Dink said it in another post in the past about a crank being 90+% accurate if you string well. Constant pulls are more like 99% accurate. Its just what you can live with and how accurate and fluid you are stringing with a crank.

And about feeling a difference...
"My stringing tension is between 17-18 kp on normal stringing-machines and 14-15 kp on Babolat professional stringing-machine." Peter Gade
Clearly, there is a difference in the methodos