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    Kkk/tbh going downhill on late '07 - early '08.The best result this year.Round 2..Others - 1st round already out.
    But who will dare to say,this is the end of the road?
    those who scared to have dreams are losers.Hear that?LOSERS.

    N sis aza,yes.I agree with rexy.He is in charge.We appointed him.We think he has what it takes to train our athletes.So,now..We cant just simply say he is wrong in making decision.Just cant.

    I wont just believe in all rumours n having a thought based on them.
    KKK is an individual that has proved himself before.I've seen a good side of him as a national shuttler.That matters most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azabaz_ipoh View Post
    let's hope they buck up and buck up real fast. and even though some people here are so against hoping for something they think are never gonna happen, just let the hopers hope ok. no harm done.
    Ok, do hope really really hard ok.

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    [quote=badMania;826330]I just read that part too

    Quite unusual for Kompas to highlight a Malaysian player's "downfall". Maybe the journalist was too over-excited, esp the last part when he mentioned that Kido/Hendra never won against Koo/Tan. Koo/Tan's withdrawal from the Olympics undoubtedly will boost Kido/Hendra's chance of a Gold Medal in the Beijing Games


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    That was a translation from the NST article, from English to Indonesian, he he. The story broke in NST 1st, then the other press followed suit.

    Yeah, you'll be happy if your heros have 1 less bogeyman to overcome .
    But I suspect the end of the drama may be anti-climatic to some.

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    Default Ya know..

    ..after reading all of these latest news/reports, KKK's baddy talent but seemingly rather "flamboyant" lifestyle, attitude and lack of discipline issues remind me of another young (used to be) phenom, living not too far from M'sia........guess who??.........................................yep, Taufik Hidayat..(of course, minus all the incidents of assaulting and provoking fans & public; blonde hairdo and "overly accessorized" bling2 collection)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..after reading all of these latest news/reports, KKK's baddy talent but seemingly rather "flamboyant" lifestyle, attitude and lack of discipline issues remind me of another young (used to be) phenom, living not too far from M'sia........guess who??.........................................yep, Taufik Hidayat..(of course, minus all the incidents of assaulting and provoking fans & public; blonde hairdo and "overly accessorized" bling2 collection)..
    at least he can 'convert' his those attitudes with good achievements

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    Quote Originally Posted by taufik-ist View Post
    at least he can 'convert' his those attitudes with good achievements
    ..early success seems to be similar w/Taufik's early success...let alone all the hypes surrounding both players..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..after reading all of these latest news/reports, KKK's baddy talent but seemingly rather "flamboyant" lifestyle, attitude and lack of discipline issues remind me of another young (used to be) phenom, living not too far from M'sia........guess who??.........................................yep, Taufik Hidayat..(of course, minus all the incidents of assaulting and provoking fans & public; blonde hairdo and "overly accessorized" bling2 collection)..
    As Pemuda said, Taufik Hidayat has won the WC, the AG and the OG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    As Pemuda said, Taufik Hidayat has won the WC, the AG and the OG.
    ..and KKK has conquered 1 out of the 3, so far (actually w/an AE title as well, unlike Taufik)...Perhaps, like what happened to Taufik in 2004, KKK needs a "jolt" in his baddy career to get his mind & attitude back? Perhaps Rexy highly regards KKK thus we see all of these criticisms. Or maybe Rexy does need to take a leave of absence from the team and see if KKK will come "crawling back" to him (similar to what happened w/Taufik & his coach in 2004, although i know at that time Mulyo was, and still is, Taufik's personal coach and he left under different circumstances)..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..after reading all of these latest news/reports, KKK's baddy talent but seemingly rather "flamboyant" lifestyle, attitude and lack of discipline issues remind me of another young (used to be) phenom, living not too far from M'sia........guess who??.........................................yep, Taufik Hidayat..(of course, minus all the incidents of assaulting and provoking fans & public; blonde hairdo and "overly accessorized" bling2 collection)..
    I can't help agree with chris
    Just posted a similar take here

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    it's all a ruse to give the other pairs a false sense of security and then WHAM!
    OLYMPIC GOLD!
    RM1 MILLION!
    RETIREMENT!



    or it could just be a lack of determination, hard work and focus ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    I can't help agree with chris
    Just posted a similar take here
    wow, how did i ever miss that post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamzz View Post
    it's all a ruse to give the other pairs a false sense of security and then WHAM!
    OLYMPIC GOLD!
    RM1 MILLION!
    RETIREMENT!



    or it could just be a lack of determination, hard work and focus ....
    1 million also dunno the shuttlers can perfom well or not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    1 million also dunno the shuttlers can perfom well or not..
    hmmm ... how about throwing in a Datukship title and some prime Selangor commercial land?

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    Pemuda, you're not targetted here. I'm absolutely certain you know what my point is.

    To others who are advocating a healthy dose of money to solve the problem, I hope you can recognize a system-wide, or complex problem, over a simplistic one problem, one solution situation.

    Say that 100 million dollars suddenly appeared in the national treasury to be spent solely on badminton advancement, will Malaysia get the next World Championship trophy?

    What would you spend the money on? Scouting new talents? Scrapping all the current talents? Hiring new coaches? What?

    The problem is: How to lay down the infrastructure toward badminton supremacy? How do we get there?

    Although Pemuda has highlighted the problems, and given out solutions, it has gotten buried as all attention is being washed away by

    "my KKK, pity him"
    "i show support, what else?"
    "never mind lah, a true support, so support"
    "everyone mistake, so KKK mistake, give chance"
    "I know him personally, he no like dat one in real life"
    "I know the real story, but I will not tell you"

    The only thing I can really see that's really relevent to KKK is that he's physically capable of troughing, or reaching the bottom the hill, then scampering up to the top again. The question is: Will he?

    The facilities are there, an uber coach is present, the rewards are present (but prematurely dispensed) and fan idolation is present. So what's missing?

    And further more, since this thread is about Koo Kien Keat and Tan Boon Heong ... what about TBH?

    Is he as talented, more (less) talented, or is KKK "the man"?

    -dave
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    This pair is your regular 'cart and horse'.
    Both Rexy and KKK have said as much themselves.

    Koo Kien Keat is the horse
    Tan Boon Heong is the cart

    The problem relates to where they are now going.

    Is it the horse that's dragging them downhill?
    Or is it that the cart is too heavy for the horse?

    Maybe the cart needs a different horse.
    Maybe the horse needs a different cart.

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    The Mind games has just begun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    This pair is your regular 'cart and horse'.
    Both Rexy and KKK have said as much themselves.

    Koo Kien Keat is the horse
    Tan Boon Heong is the cart

    The problem relates to where they are now going.

    Is it the horse that's dragging them downhill?
    Or is it that the cart is too heavy for the horse?

    Maybe the cart needs a different horse.
    Maybe the horse needs a different cart.
    As usual, your thought processes do not allow you to think that there is this possibily which is more likely :

    The horse and cart begin to work well together in unison after they have fought each other and learn that one without the other will not win races.

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