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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    You mean losing a game to a '2nd class MD' is alright for a 1st class MD?
    If so, how is this '1st class MD' going to beat any of the other '1st class MDs'?
    1) KKK played a total of 4 matches the day before, in XD & MD . KKK also played XD Finals around 1.5 hours before MD finals= tiredness .
    Due to this, I actually expected the semi-uncles to beat KKK/TBH, CCM/CCE only played 1 dept. CCM/CCE with their vast experience still got some tricks up their sleeves, they have beaten Tony/Chandra, Lee/Hwang bf this year.

    KKK/TBH this local circuit often took rubbers sets to finish off their opponents => Razif/Wee Kiong in QF, TBS/Khoo CC in Semi. Comparatively, I would rate CCM/CCE as higher than these younger pairs.

    2) Fuzzy pair lost to Tan Bin SHen/Khoo CC in QF. Would Fuzzy be considered lower class then ?? Zakry was also playing XD this tourney.

    After Uncles retire & if KKK/TBH split, Fuzzy will be 1st MD pair. Even if KKK/TBH dont split, it looks like Fuzzy wil carry the main challenge as 1st pair. Unless of course in the 1st place you did not consider the Fuzzy to be 1st class.

    in any case, it looks that KKK/TBH would be split. Even though Rexy said, there's another 2 tourneys, better for them to split.

    And Jadgpanther, see told you, win also ppl will comment, lose also they will comment, when it comes to local tourney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    1) KKK played a total of 4 matches the day before, in XD & MD . KKK also played XD Finals around 1.5 hours before MD finals= tiredness [...]
    There's a player by the name of Lee Yong-Dae who competes in more tiring conditions. The last we heard of him, he had won a gold at the Olympics and not at the, er, Penang Open

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    2) Fuzzy pair lost to Tan Bin SHen/Khoo CC in QF. Would Fuzzy be considered lower class then ?? Zakry was also playing XD this tourney. Unless of course in the 1st place you did not consider the Fuzzy to be 1st class.
    As players that understand each other, I'd rate Fairuzizuan & Zakry above any existing Malaysian pair. In the light of this loss, it might be either that they are determined to go the KKK way or that Malaysia has an even better pair waiting in the wings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    There's a player by the name of Lee Yong-Dae who competes in more tiring conditions. The last we heard of him, he had won a gold at the Olympics and not at the, er, Penang Open


    .......that Malaysia has an even better pair waiting in the wings
    hehe, LYD did not play 4 matches in 1 day at most tourneys - normally it's 2 in 1 day. When playing 2 depts the Msia youngster pairs seemed more tired than the seniors . ANd yes, LYD did win gold - in XD.

    If LYD/JSS were Msians, they would have been hauled up to explain "why lose MD in 1st round to a uncle pair, so embrassing, etc", there would have been a bigger hu ha cos Lars/Jonas arent world top 5.
    Dont get me wrong I do salute LYD/LHJ for upsetting the Nova/Lilyana.


    Yup, Tan Bin Shen & Ong Hock Sock (senior pair, 4th Msia MD) splitting up was good for TBS. He seems more fired up with his new partner KCC.

    Anyway, both KKK & TBH have indicated publically they do not want to split, one of the times where both seem to be in agreement

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    hehe, LYD did not play 4 matches in 1 day at most tourneys - normally it's 2 in 1 day. When playing 2 depts the Msia youngster pairs seemed more tired than the seniors . ANd yes, LYD did win gold - in XD.
    Um, there's another Korean gentleman named Kim Dong-Moon...
    ...(and I could go on and on with this if you want to dole out excuses)

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    If LYD/JSS were Msians, they would have been hauled up to explain "why lose MD in 1st round to a uncle pair, so embrassing, etc", there would have been a bigger hu ha cos Lars/Jonas arent world top 5.
    What's different with the Koreans is that when one pair lost, another pair roared in to retake the position

    The only recent occasion when Malaysian MDs displayed such heroism is the 2008 Indonesia Open. Never mind that the final was against, er, 'uncles' - it is clear that Fuzzy have what it takes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    Um, there's another Korean gentleman named Kim Dong-Moon...
    ...(and I could go on and on with this if you want to dole out excuses)


    What's different with the Koreans is that when one pair lost, another pair roared in to retake the position

    The only recent occasion when Malaysian MDs displayed such heroism is the 2008 Indonesia Open. Never mind that the final was against, er, 'uncles' - it is clear that Fuzzy have what it takes
    , not that. They still lost, just pointing out they would have been hauled up too, it's a difference to the decision makers. Heroism??? what heroism??Not talking abt that, any lost or continous lost, woe unto the Msians.

    LCW was branded as no hoper in 2006 & 2007 till his IO 2007 win. Fuzzy too, they, esp Fairuz were blasted in 2007. It goes on & on & on .

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    oldhand, eaglehelang tell u A , u reply her B..
    haha..LMAO!

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    Hehehehehehehehehe......MK/HS never beaten Koo and Tan but once they beat Koo and Tan is at the event which really matters the most...hehehehhehehe

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    Got a feeling the that most players including the singles need individual coaching. Perhaps there can be incentive (individual coaching; allow the players choose their coach; like tennis professional style) or time line for players to excel like 2 years frame. Now BAM is already thinking of getting rid of the non performers (which is a good thing) and allow younger players to excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Yes, he did. Both MD and XD. Cool, eh?
    WOW, so that's actually quite sad for Malaysia that KKK is the best that Malaysia can produce, but KKK can't win anything(big, I won't even use the word "important" these days.) any more these days.

    By the way, what happened to his "Glory" tatoo?
    Does he feel that he has lived up to that word with his 2 titles win at this national tournament?

    Then when you compare KKK with Lee Yong Dae, even at age 20, Lee Yong Dae is so much more mature, and has what it takes to be a world class badminton CHAMPION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananakid View Post
    WOW, so that's actually quite sad for Malaysia that KKK is the best that Malaysia can produce, but KKK can't win anything(big, I won't even use the word "important" these days.) any more these days.

    By the way, what happened to his "Glory" tatoo?
    Does he feel that he has lived up to that word with his 2 titles win at this national tournament?

    Then when you compare KKK with Lee Yong Dae, even at age 20, Lee Yong Dae is so much more mature, and has what it takes to be a world class badminton CHAMPION.
    hmm, at least malaysia can produce an all england champion and malaysia has its own KKK.
    did Canada even produce good badminton players that can win anything BIG these days?
    come to think of it, i feel quite sad for Canada too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    hmm, at least malaysia can produce an all england champion and malaysia has its own KKK.
    did Canada even produce good badminton players that can win anything BIG these days?
    come to think of it, i feel quite sad for Canada too.
    I feel sad for you if you feel that it is a big accompishment for Malaysia to be better in badminton than Canada. By the way, Canada earned 3 gold medals(not a lot) in this OG, but how many did Malaysia get???

    Of course Canada is sad in badminton. I just downloaded the Thomas cup match between Canada and JJS/Lee Yong Dae, and it was sad that Canada lost even though the Koreans were pretty much fooling around.

    Canada has never claimed to be a badminton powerhouse from the start, and it has never been proud about its badminton accompishment if any, plus the close to none funding from the government. Unlike Malaysia which spends millions on badminton, and the best you can produce is not even that great with the exception of LCW(by the way, was beaten badly in the OG, too)
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    george@CW, our uncle (35) and auntie (48) are older than your counterparts. If MAL players are better than us, IT IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    The news has it that Koo Kien Keat & Tan Boon Heong won the Penang Open MD title beating Chan Chong Ming & Chew Choon Eng.

    The win is certainly good news...
    ...but what's chilling is the score: 21-18, 18-21, 21-8

    Can't they manage a straight sets win against a pair of ageing veterans?

    The Penang Open is no Japan Open or Malaysia Open.
    It seems the downhill ride isn't over yet
    Certainly good news.They however aint the best yet.So,i guess this thread is still relevant.I wish they will gain something significant.Its never too late to improve.Wish them luck Oldhand !
    I see some of us have give up on them.
    X-ball made a thread with regards on that.Pemuda 'resinged'.Whats next?

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    ok...this thread is not for u all to quarel about other matters...if wan quarrel PLEASE MAKE A NEW THREAD....O DEBATE WAN....u all r very frustrating....we need to tkae care of KKK/TBH not just give comments ma....when win win lo....when lose...as if the world is gonna be gone...LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_91 View Post
    ok...this thread is not for u all to quarel about other matters...if wan quarrel PLEASE MAKE A NEW THREAD....O DEBATE WAN....u all r very frustrating....we need to tkae care of KKK/TBH not just give comments ma....when win win lo....when lose...as if the world is gonna be gone...LOL...
    Then what should we discuss in here?

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    Monday September 1, 2008

    Kien Keat says he wants to continue partnership with Tan

    By RAJES PAUL

    PETALING JAYA: Doubles shuttler Koo Kien Keat is prepared to quit the sport if a decision is made to split his two-year partnership with Tan Boon Heong.
    Kien Keat said yesterday that he was determined to maintain the partnership even though they have had disappointing results in recent tournaments, including the Beijing Olympics.
    He wants another shot at working on improving the partnership and make a stronger challenge for a medal in the 2012 Olympics in London.
    Koo Kien Keat (left) and Tan Boon Heong posing with the mock cheque after winning the men's doubles title in the Penang Open on Saturday.
    At the Beijing Games, Kien Keat-Boon Heong were rated as very strong bets to get among the medallists but they crashed out with a weak performance against eventual champions Markis Kido-Hendra Gunawan of Indonesia in the quarter-finals.
    Their disappointing exit led to talks that the duo may go separate ways.
    Kien Keat added that they gave their best in the Beijing Games.
    “I have to admit that there had been times when our form was not good. We gave our best in Beijing but our opponents were just better than us on the day,” said Kien Keat on their first-ever defeat by Markis-Hendra in six meetings.
    “Right now, I do not know what the future holds for us. Nothing much has been said to us yet. But Boon Heong and I have talked about this and we may quit the sport if our partnership is split.”
    He added that he would respect whatever decisions made by the coaches and the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) on his future in the national team.
    “I will accept their decision if there is a good explanation and a good reason given on why such move (on the split) is made. For now, we are just waiting for our coach (Rexy Mainaky) to tell us on our next assignment,” said Kien Keat.
    “We will also meet Datuk Zolkples (Embong, the National Sports Council director general) to explain our defeat in Beijing and share with him our hope for the future.”
    Kien Keat, who won the Penang Open with Boon Heong on Saturday, said that the failure in the Beijing Olympics had fuelled the fire in them to make a comeback as a successful pair.
    “Boon Heong and I want to be there again as a pair in the London Olympics. That is our goal,” he said. “We have learnt our lesson with the defeat in Beijing. We have gone through a lot as a pair and we are determined to bounce back.”
    Kien Keat-Boon Heong brought much hope to the country with their excellent run since winning the 2006 Asian Games gold medal in Doha. Last year, they won the prestigious All-England and the Open titles in Malaysia, Switzerland, Macau, the Philippines and Denmark.
    But they have drawn blanks thus far this year.


    THEY LEARNT IT FROM OUR POLITICIANS - THREATENING. WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah View Post

    THEY LEARNT IT FROM OUR POLITICIANS - THREATENING. WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT
    Dato cool down. No need to over react.

    While I totally share the same feeling of yours toward some of our bloody idiotic Malaysian politician, I must say KKK/TBH have the right to voice their opinion and their concerns too. Particularly regarding any decision about their own future.

    Besides, the media might have highlighted their concerns as " threathening". Don't tell me you haven't find out sometimes certain mainstream media in this country is not very trustworthy.

    So cool down.

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