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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    err.....LYD/JJS lost to Simon Mollyhus and Anders Kristiansen before..
    err...they also lost to Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadhi in Swiss Open 07
    err...they also lost to Michael Logozs/Robert Matseusiak in HKO 07
    MK/HS lost to Han San Hoon/Yoo Yeon Seong in AE 07
    you overlook?
    even CY/FHF lost to TBS/OSH in MO 07
    anything can happen....not big deal...all of them have
    their ups and downs...at least KKK/TBH gave us some hope
    they can come back, HH? forget it...
    Yes, yes LYD/JJS, MK/HS & CY/FHF lost to this and that and etc etc. BUT, lets line them all up i.e. LYD/JJS, MK/HS, CY/FHF & KKK/TBH and compare the titles won todate. Who has won the big titles??

    In another light, I think Manchester United have got beaten by Southampton before but where is MU and Southampton today??

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel882 View Post
    Until They able to win the BIG one such as WC; OG etc; otherwise they perfomance will not be satisfied by many.
    Like it or not thats what pro sports is all about. You win the big ones. In tennis, its the Wimbledon, US, Aussie, French Opens. Not the Hollywood Open. In football, its the world cup at international stage and the CL, PL, Primera Liga, Scudetto, etc at club level. Not the Ali Baba Challenge Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetlover View Post
    i totally agree with u daneilwong...
    we must alwayz support our players whenever they win nor lost...
    yup myb they didnt at their top form yet but at least they shown positive progress n we should inspires them more not keep bashing them...
    no use to bashing them...
    to beat jjs/lyd in js straight set n mk/hs in the same tournament will give them more confident to do more better for the next tournament...
    so we should encourage them not bashing them..
    we cant bash our players everytime they lose?
    When the win, interview in TV; everyone can congrats them ...
    Freedom to speak dudes!
    Shall we suggest to government to arrest those who bash players under ISA (Internal Security Act)

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel882 View Post
    we cant bash our players everytime they lose?
    When the win, interview in TV; everyone can congrats them ...
    Freedom to speak dudes!
    Shall we suggest to government to arrest those who bash players under ISA (Internal Security Act)
    Bash them if they lose as you wish but also congratulates them when they're back to the winner's podium. Unlike some here who can only bash, bash and bash some more, and/or finding excuses to ridicule/demerits it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
    Yes, yes LYD/JJS, MK/HS & CY/FHF lost to this and that and etc etc. BUT, lets line them all up i.e. LYD/JJS, MK/HS, CY/FHF & KKK/TBH and compare the titles won todate. Who has won the big titles??

    In another light, I think Manchester United have got beaten by Southampton before but where is MU and Southampton today??

    i want to be Uncle Robin in this case
    JJS/LYD won AE 08- no OG, no AG, no WC
    CY/FHF won AE few times, WC once, no AG, no OG
    MK/HS won OG, WC , no AE, no AG
    KKK/TBH won AG 07, AE 08, no OG, no WC
    so who is the boss????

    btw stop EPL here, coz i don't like soccer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badadum View Post
    Bash them if they lose as you wish but also congratulates them when they're back to the winner's podium. Unlike some here who can only bash, bash and bash some more, and/or finding excuses to ridicule/demerits it.

    yes...Pemuda, Dato Asbullah esp....samor they are Malaysian
    cooler as well, but he is Canadian, we don't care...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    i want to be Uncle Robin in this case
    JJS/LYD won AE 08- no OG, no AG, no WC
    CY/FHF won AE few times, WC once, no AG, no OG
    MK/HS won OG, WC , no AE, no AG
    KKK/TBH won AG 07, AE 08, no OG, no WC
    so who is the boss????

    btw stop EPL here, coz i don't like soccer...
    Dude, you listed down the 4 pairs achievements. I believe you know 'who is the boss', right? Super series titles??

    Is that AG gold considered a 'big title'???

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    yes...Pemuda, Dato Asbullah esp....samor they are Malaysian
    cooler as well, but he is Canadian, we don't care...
    What is 'samor'??? Is that how a Malaysian speak?

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    There is no doubt whatsoever KKK-TBH are playing better. Their smashings are more lethal and their movements are not as tentative. The best part is the smiles on their faces which suggests that they are no longer worried about losing (it is always the case when you are not pressured).

    Will they be able to sustain this great win with more ? Pemuda says it means nothing coz they had not won any major titles compared to others. I think he is just jealous as always - USD$42,000 prizemoney is nothing to snigger about. I would be more interested to see who wins the most in terms of prizemoney rather than the titles.
    Last edited by X Ball; 12-22-2008 at 09:58 PM.

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    If I were KKK/TBH, I would just state anyone who think can do better than us go ahead and join BAM and show the world what you got......either put up or shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
    Dude, you listed down the 4 pairs achievements. I believe you know 'who is the boss', right? Super series titles??

    Is that AG gold considered a 'big title'???

    no lar AG is just an ayam brand title,
    4 years once....the best in Asia won't
    want to win it..
    furthermore KKK/TBH won AE 07 also
    cap kapak only....coz all players is injured
    or one eye closed...
    if we add up every pairs Super Series title
    KKK/TBH is not losing either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Ball View Post
    There is no doubt whatsoever KKK-TBH are playing better. Their smashings are more lethal and their movements are not as tentative. The best part is the smiles on their faces which suggests that they are no longer worried about losing (it is always the case when you are not pressured).

    Will they be able to sustain this great win with more ? Pemuda says it means nothing coz they had not won any major titles compared to others. I think he is just jealous as always - USD$42,000 prizemoney is nothing to snigger about. I would be more interested to see who wins the most in terms of prizemoney rather than the titles.
    Yoooo dude, we are back!!! How are things man?? Working or what?? I am on leave till Jan 5th.

    Now for the business side of things, if you say prize money is more important than titles than KKK/TBH should join the circus or be the Harlem Globetrotters of badminton instead. You know, put on some fancy costume and entertain the crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    no lar AG is just an ayam brand title,
    4 years once....the best in Asia won't
    want to win it..
    furthermore KKK/TBH won AE 07 also
    cap kapak only....coz all players is injured
    or one eye closed...
    if we add up every pairs Super Series title
    KKK/TBH is not losing either...
    heh, LYD/JJS's achievement is pretty much mirror KKK/TBH (with the exception of AG's gold).......and they even burned out in glorious fashion in the 1st round of OG.... why don't the same folk here dare to bash them as well ? Maybe because they realize its the world #2 pair we're talking here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    no lar AG is just an ayam brand title,
    4 years once....the best in Asia won't
    want to win it..
    furthermore KKK/TBH won AE 07 also
    cap kapak only....coz all players is injured
    or one eye closed...
    if we add up every pairs Super Series title
    KKK/TBH is not losing either...
    How come http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton#Competitions didnt list down AG??? It mentioned the Olympics and the WC along with the Super Series but no AG.

    Why dont you add up those Super Series titles since you have already done for the WC, OG, AE ... and yes that AG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
    Is that AG gold considered a 'big title'???

    this made me think tat u is cooler....hehe...lindan say ag is small title nia...no nid win...let tat pity th won 2 twice...

    Quote Originally Posted by badadum View Post
    If I were KKK/TBH, I would just state anyone who think can do better than us go ahead and join BAM and show the world what you got......either put up or shut up.
    hehe...great idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
    Why dont you add up those Super Series titles since you have already done for the WC, OG, AE ... and yes that AG?
    ok...i will do the job...wait...

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    I would say titles and prize monies are both important to the professionals.
    Most times, the prize money goes with the title in the sense that the more prestigious the title, the higher the prize money.

    However, as in most things, there are exceptions. There is no official prize money for the Olympics, but win a gold medal for your country, then you are made for life, well almost, depending on your aspirations and expectations.

    For a long time the AE did not have a prize money that commensurates with the prestige associated with it. Even some lesser tournaments in Asia presented a higher prize.

    The recent SS Masters commanded the highest prize of US$500,000, I think in the entire history of world badminton, because the current world's best eight players or pairs in their respective events were supposed to be competing. It is the quality that attracted the biggest payout. But alas, without China, the strongest badminton country in the world, participating, the tournament has lost much of its prestige.

    So in the end, the quality of the field counts as much as the titles and prize monies.

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