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03-07-2008, 02:02 AM #86
So, eaglehelang, if 80% are the bashers, and 20% blind supporters, err sorry, loyal fans, why do you sound so defensive and us-against-them, when you encounter bashers here on the forum? Looking to level the 1:4 imbalance?
And azazz..ipoh, (can I just call you aza?), only the fans can criticize? If you subscribe to the 1:4 imbalance, then only a small minority can criticize? But by definition, the fans are indiscriminately loyal, good or bad, lose or win. So where does the criticism come from? I'm confused.
I'll put out again, that people want to get excited for KKK/TBH, and get sorely disappointed when it doesn't happen. Some expressions of disappointment can be quite sharp, but lashing out with puppy love and puppy sentiments is a little, uh, anachronic, or not quite the right time for it.
Last edited by wood_22_chuck; 03-07-2008 at 02:03 AM. Reason: Why can't I spell?
03-07-2008, 02:47 AM #87
03-07-2008, 02:54 AM #88
03-07-2008, 03:04 AM #89
03-07-2008, 03:09 AM #90
03-07-2008, 03:21 AM #91
sorry you are alphabetically challenged. yes, just call me aza. short and simple.
constructive criticism is what we are looking for. for fans, we want the players to buck up if we see them not doing their best. so it is really the question of the motive of the criticism. when people criticize that malaysian player lack mental toughness, i agree. when people say that sometimes our players depend too much on the coach, i agree. and these are what the players should improve. work harder to get it right. this is constructive criticism. but when people criticize hair colour, and what they wear (which frankly have nothing to do with their talent and whether they are good enough to win, ex: that flamboyant NBA player dennis rodman) and people criticize the fact that they lose to lower ranking opponents when other top players are losing to lower ranked opponents too (but nobody highlight that part and just zoom in on one particular pair), i tend to question the motive and i tend to question whether you are criticizing as a fan or as someone who waits for the downfall of players you dont like.
fans are loyal. being disappointed will surely be one of our feelings when supporting a player/team. criticizing weak points should be allowed. blind bashing and repeated negative comments are getting old.
which part are puppy love and puppy sentiments? highlight which ones are considered as such? i know koo_fan have been very ultra loyal and supportive to her fav player. who else are blindly supporting and never except that our players have weakness? who do you support wood chuck? have you criticize your fav players like this?
Last edited by azabaz_ipoh; 03-07-2008 at 03:25 AM.
03-07-2008, 04:10 AM #92
It effects my reputation as a Malaysian, you're not the one who's questioned by non Msians on why Msians are so unpatriotic - this perception overspills to other matters.
You're not the one who read or hear the 80% complain day & day out (even when the players win), you're not the one the 80% laughed at when we said KKK/TBH could win AG 2006.
Complain means when Msia player win they say "Lucky only lah, cannot win next time." When lose, ehem.... "told you so, sure fail one."
Or you could say I'm sick of reading & hearing all the negativism.
Even if I dont read, sooner or later someone come & tell me, in the end have to answer also. The rest, Badmania have replied.
Other aspects, my fellow BCer, Azabaz_Ipoh have laboriously typed the reply.
I'm sure you know that in real life, in order to progress, constant negativism or "they will never make it-lah, all useless" attitude will not work. Imagine the 80% saying "Sure lose wan" all the time, of course the sure lose become true.
2) The Star, out of the 5 major Eng & Malay dailies, is the least critical. If you think it's like tabloid/sensational, you havent read our Malay dailies.
I find it a bit odd though about the "kicking someone when they're down" part. Dont you advocate realism? This kind of comment very normal to happen to Msian players in the media, even worse comment also got.
"but what will it take to get there" part - the coaches cant say in public, supposed to be secret in case opponents get wind of it.
Misbun Sidek explained on this before.
Last edited by eaglehelang; 03-07-2008 at 04:19 AM.
03-07-2008, 04:29 AM #93
Blind support or not, I couldn't see a single bit of harm they could do by supporting them and defending their players.
So why not just leave them as they be while you like to call yourself to be all rational and realistic?
I mean, what's your problem with me supporting anyone when they lose?
03-07-2008, 04:55 AM #94
03-07-2008, 05:14 AM #95
we argue2, then we kawan back... we live happily ever after... yea...!
03-07-2008, 07:45 AM #96
Nothing is going to escape any KKK (and TBH) related thread..
03-07-2008, 08:24 AM #97
Story of the day:
3 people(Hafiz, KKK, TBH) were planning to climb a mountain named "AE" together. Instead of climbing on the same day, Hafiz decided to go alone and start early.
On the day which KKK and TBH decided to start their trip, Hafiz was already at the top of the mountain. When Hafiz looked down at KKK and TBH from the top of mountain "AE", he screamed:
Hafiz: Hey guys, it is so cool to be here, and I bet now I will be famous and the government will pay me a lot of $$$ and I never have to work hard again!
KKK and TBH before starting to climb, they decided to make a prayer. "I wish I can be just like Hafiz"
While KKK and TBH were half way to the top, they met Hafiz who was on his way down from the top.
KKK: Why are you coming downhill from the top, I thought it was cool to be up there?
Hafiz: I don't need to stay up there any more, as I will forever be remembered as the individual whom got to the AE mountain alone... I will see you guys at the bottom of the mountain.
Once, KKK and TBH got to the top, they quickly realized that Hafiz was right all along. As the first couple to get to the top of mountain AE, they became famous and rich, and so they are now happy to go downhill and meet with Hafiz.
KKK: "Our prayer has came true, now we are just like Hafiz"
TBH: "It's time for us to follow Hafiz's footstep and get back to the bottom of the mountain."
KKK and TBH are satisfied with their 1 time glory, and much rather be partying and clubing with Hafiz than being at the top of the mountain and enduring with HUGE air "Pressure".
In the meantime, LCW were looking at the top of mountain AE, hoping that one day he could get to the top, but then his friend Taufik came by his side and said:
Taufik: I won't let you get up there because it is too dangerous.
LCW: why not? what's so dangerous?
Taufik: " There is this beast who will eat you alive..."
LCW: "Oh goodness, what is this beast, I am so afraid..."
Taufik "This super beast is called "Lin Dan". "
LCW: "Oh, Taufik, can you make sure you will protect me from being owned by Lin Dan, please"
Taufik " sure, just let me go to the mountain instead of you."
LCW: "alright, I will never want to go there any more"
The point of the story is "Yes, KKK and TBH are going downhill to meet up with Hafiz" and "LCW will never win AE". LOL.
Last edited by bananakid; 03-07-2008 at 08:32 AM.
03-07-2008, 08:30 AM #98
kkk said he is over confident... he should realise that he cant be over confident when he is playing against the japanese duo. pls larrrrrr
03-07-2008, 08:43 AM #99
from hero to zero....
03-07-2008, 09:17 AM #100
i believe they will bounce back.... jangan putus asa kawan
03-07-2008, 12:24 PM #101
If I keep getting asked who's side I'm on, then I'd have kept Pemuda at bay, at the very least, while allowing the fans to air their views safely without being attacked.
You know it's really tricky, the fans are a lot more volatile. Just a drop of Pemuda, or bananakid, I'm noticing, with the hilariously funny () mountain story, can/will start a raging fire quite easily.
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03-07-2008, 09:03 PM #102
i think bananakid's story is funny. like a fairytale with monsters and what not. but fairy tales, in the end, are just tales. real life goes on.
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