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03-15-2008, 02:09 PM #52
I am not saying there was no Bias, but the normal thing to do would be to punish a player, and then try to rectify the problems that caused it.
In other sports, eg. cricket. They have a "bringing the game into disrepute" law, does badminton have such a law?
03-15-2008, 02:14 PM #53
To fairly resolve this incident, everyone i have listed above should be disciplined. May i say it again, bwf doesnt have the time, money, legal team, or gut to risk badminton image do that - and i didnt even brought up any international consequences that may ensue.
A petty fine and/or suspension won't deter or solve anything here.
Although i have being critical of bwf in many many posts before, i do believed that bwf is NOT THAT DUMB to make a big blunder decision in this case.
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03-15-2008, 02:24 PM #54
I am guilty, your honor. Please go easy on the canning... Or can I bribe you?
03-15-2008, 02:28 PM #55
03-15-2008, 02:34 PM #56
03-15-2008, 02:59 PM #57
I am not saying I disagree with you here, but were all the overules from the same linejudge?
And if not, then in defence of the umpire they couldn't be expected to change all of them, and in any case, they were likely to be changed for other potentially biased linejudges anyway.
I don't think the Linejudges can be punished - they are probably volunteers and have little responsibility - it would be like punishing the ball boys at a football game.
Umpires are always unlikely to be punished since it will undermine any fture performances.
I agree that a fine or suspension would likely not have any effect, but the ruling seems to be that LD/LM were entitled to do what they did.
03-15-2008, 03:01 PM #58Originally Posted by birdwood
If there wasn't any bad line call, if there wasn't any umpire, if bla bla bla...
Here is another IF: If the scoring was 22-21 for LD, LHI would have won the next point because that's what he did in the second set AND third set.... if if if...
But that is pure speculation on my part...
I can continue like that, but speculation is nothing more than speculation, and it's neither right nor wrong... it's speculation.
There is a reason why I don't continue arguing in an endless argument
What happened to ethics and sportsmanship? Does it mean you have to hide every hideous things in badminton to please the Olympics? Badminton is already programmed in the Olympics.
What about cycling and all the drugs? Is it okay to hide there is drug use just so cycling can be in the Olympics?
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03-15-2008, 03:11 PM #59
03-15-2008, 03:22 PM #60
In this case, the umpire should weigh in the frequency and blatantness of the bad calls. For ex at 08 Korea Open. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdUgLuRTF8 i would replace that line judge even if that was his/her first bad call. The bad call was blatantly INTENTIONAL. The umpire even did a ''
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03-15-2008, 03:29 PM #61
There is of course no laws for this, it is a "moral code" of my own creation, but it does exist in other peoples minds as well I am sure
03-15-2008, 03:39 PM #62
We coming back to full circle, if bwf gonna dish out punishment, bwf should punish them all. Being volunteers dont exempt them from misconduct even if it's moral code. Volunteers have been removed or disciplined for misconduct before outside badminton.
03-15-2008, 04:16 PM #63
What people will judge upon is the integrity of the game, not the looks.
The fact there are measures to counterattack and punish drug use in cycling is all the more beneficial for the sport, even more for the Olympics.
What do you think would be the equivalent judging made by the BWF MIRT on cycling ?
Just a hypothesis: minimize drug use, not punish the cyclist, punish the organizers for not making necessary precautions to prevent cyclist using drugs. Don't you find this ridiculours?
You want more analogies? What about maligned violent behaviors in Ice Hockey (not talking about fights) ? What would the BWF do? Not blame the player for his misconduct, but the referee ? Do you remember the Bertuzzi case ? Or one of the first expulsion ? Maybe you need a refresher on what to do in these cases:
Originally Posted by wikipedia
03-15-2008, 04:40 PM #64
Anyhow I think we will have to disagree on this. The reaction IMO should still be punished, the provocation should be dealt with, but WBF have stated they are doing so.
My real problem with WBF is that they seem to be saying what LD/LM did was fine, it was the LJ's fault. IMO this is not the case.
03-15-2008, 04:52 PM #65
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03-15-2008, 05:26 PM #66
Are you saying it is OKAY to have fights in badminton or have an agressive behavior in badminton?
Are you saying is was okay for Bertuzzi to hit the other guy on the head? Because if it is okay for you, it was a big NO NO for the NHL.
Even Hockey which is known for its violence has sets its limit.
It's not because the other sports tolerate such behavior that badminton should.
You want to see a sport that absolutely does not tolerate that kind of manner? Golf. Pro golfers are true gentleman, and won't get their feelings get a hold of them. Because if they do, they will get a very taxing punishment.
03-15-2008, 05:45 PM #67
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03-16-2008, 10:44 PM #68
No punishment for LD after incidance inKO 08
BWF have annouced that they would not punish LD for his rough action in court during KO final againts LHI....
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