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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Let me reply on half of our dear Winston_T.....simply because China is the best
    Until they stop cheating we will never know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear View Post
    Let me get this straight, you are going back to an incident that occurred in the 1960s to justify cheating now? That is one very warped set of values you have there. By the way since when did this thread become about wether LD TH or LCW is the better player? There are plenty of other threads were that debate raging.
    U should read more of our dear Winston's post and u will know better. Remember...don't have any tea or coffee besides u...u will spill it for sure

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    Thomas/Uber cups are also country(association)-based events. Therefore the current quota is reasonable.

    Furthermore, as a politically correct statement, China indeed sends 4 teams to Thomas/Uber cups -- Mainland, Taiwan, HK, Macau.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston_T View Post
    can China sends 3 teams to Uber Cup?

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    Exclamation Cease & Desist!

    I now know why you guys spend so much time on personal comments.
    You are deliberately doing it to keep the mods busy, aren't you?

    Cut it out, please

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    It's actually quite interesting to look at history. Before OG04 LD is definitely the hottest star, but then this "almost-retiring prodigy" TH jumped out from nowhere and grabbed the glory. I kind of see LD's attempts to take some glory back in his clash with TH in 04 Ind Open and 05 Sudirman. Then came the infamous WC final, LD collapsed when TH leaded 8:0 in the 1st (He must be thinking, what the hell... Is this guy REALLY better than me?!). He tried to recover in the 2nd and indeed leaded 7:3, but TH was very strong then and managed to not let him won another single point. This loss seemed to had haunt LD until he won his 2nd WC -- he tried to brush TH away by winning the AG final but failed.

    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    At that time only..LD admitted it ( first round with TH in MO) but now...he is not afraid of TH anymore........
    Last edited by ye333; 03-18-2008 at 07:14 AM.

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    That's why we have to do it. I can understand BWF position.

    Quote Originally Posted by sumbadder View Post
    The problem with your suggestions though is that they go against common ideals, namely: being innocent till proven guilty. While these walkovers may look to be obviously planned, the BWF can't punish someone with just circumstantial evidence.
    Last edited by sjoe; 03-18-2008 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston_T View Post
    ye333 have posted it before they deleted.
    since 1960, PBSI also "fix" Rudi Hartono match in All England, so he can looks invincible.

    plus, quotes from Sabathiel, that Icuk can win the WC 83 coz of the "pressure" from Ina govt, that several Chinese Indonesian had already won prestigious titles, while native Indonesian never win.

    from 1960 they're already fix the match, how many of u complaint about that?
    Your year of 1960 is wrong thus I question your recollection and judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyang View Post
    pls put AE, this is one of the big event as well !!!!
    well,i kinda started this.
    i was to show that TH only do well in fixed tournaments. Fixed means it's not opened to all potential competitors.

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    TH is on the down hill, he has reached the peak before but after the marriage his inconsistancy is very apparent. Losing more often than LD on recent tournaments too. So with all due respect WInston_T, i don't understand why are you defending your stand so much because it is already a fact that LD is the better player. Only those hardcore TH fans with bias mind still think he has a calculative chance of winning another OG gold, or event another SS event. So chill out man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms142 View Post
    http://badmintoncn.com/News/c/200803...315091407.html

    For those who don't read Chinese, the article indicates that a) Many fans in China are complaining about LYB's match-fixing practices (in AE and possibly Swiss open), and b) LYB has openly admitted to match-fixing in the past, but felt that it can't be helped due to the priorities in China. The article, which supposedly comes from a Chinese newspaper, is quite critical of this.

    I don't mean to provoke more debates on this; I'm just pleased that there is media pressure in China for change.
    Your summary of the article is far from accurate and appear to be narrow-minded. I would suggest that if you'd like to refer to an Chinese article in the future, please do a translation, so BCers can get a more complete picture about what it has been said.

    Quote Originally Posted by phaarix View Post
    The greater good of China (although ironically China doesn't sound too happy about it apparently?)... by MANIPULATING the Olympic qualifications! It really does disgust me, and I don't know how they're allowed to get away with it. I hope this article has some effect. It's not good at all and it just has to stop... To me it's even more of an issue than biased line calls.
    That's the problem I cited above. You read what ms142 wrote, not the article itself.

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    I agree with Birdwood about the summary ms142 made, it doesn't give the entire picture of what the article said. I am not going to go detail into that article. Basically, some people may categorize the W/O as strategy to attain better seeding and maximize the number of eligible chinese players, while other people may think this is unsportmanship and unethical. At the end, as long as WBF didn't think it is against the rule and continue to accommodate such behaviour. China will continue to take advantage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    u dont want but the bookies wants to fix the game
    so we(ordinary ppl) cant do anything about it...
    we juz can at here debating non stop..
    I love you attitude and with you on the issue

    Quote Originally Posted by luyi80 View Post
    LYB thinks he is the GOD of the Badminton World, who ruins the world of badminton with "strategic" match fixing......for the sake of his country, for the sake of Olympic......But, to me, is for his own GOOD!

    Ppl r getting bored of this scenario, and our police of Badminton World (IBF) seems to be ignored all these, as a fan, what can we do?

    Vching, we need another petition!!!
    That's a very constructive comment

    Quote Originally Posted by koo_fan View Post
    When they knew majority are against the rule.Second thought may happen.
    not a huge impact but it is an impact.
    Wait until u are in BWF.Only then will response?

    Civilians are power.
    Could you please elaborate a little more how this works

    Quote Originally Posted by sjoe View Post
    All you can say is this is BWF problem to dealt with. This attitude is very common, everybody like to push it to somebody to solve the problem or even pray that it may solve by itself when time comes.
    Stop say that unless you are contributing to do something to change and help BWF !
    How ?, here if I can suggest :
    -Any WO by players which are obvious just like we have seen and if you are convince, we can all walk out during the player next match (the one who got a WO).
    -Any Game which are played in suspicious manner between two players, if you think it has been fixed. Walkout, don't wait what other think.

    If you show that we are not here to play along with what we are not endorsing and show that we are disgusted, sponsor will take notice straight away and we are helping BWF directly.
    Sorry to ask you. but how many SS have you been? If most of us don't even go to SS in the first place, how can we walk out (unless you meant we walk out on our computers)

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    Dont hold grudges if you cant compete fairly with CHN team. They have the luxury to "manipulate" the number of entries for CHN, and that's because the rest of the world cannot match them in all departments, esp MS.

    If our LCW, Yoyo and WCH are top 4 in the world, do you think BAM wont do as what LYB is practising now? C'on, it's the MEDALS that count, not ethical or sportmanship. In 10-20yrs down the road, we ONLY remember the winners, NOT those "sportmanship" players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Dont hold grudges if you cant compete fairly with CHN team. They have the luxury to "manipulate" the number of entries for CHN, and that's because the rest of the world cannot match them in all departments, esp MS.

    If our LCW, Yoyo and WCH are top 4 in the world, do you think BAM wont do as what LYB is practising now? C'on, it's the MEDALS that count, not ethical or sportmanship. In 10-20yrs down the road, we ONLY remember the winners, NOT those "sportmanship" players.
    I agree, i am not on anyone's side. I would do the same too if i am the coach, it is a dog eat dog world out here and only the non-competant lose. I am just refering to what other people were stated here. It is all depends on what you think best fit the situation. I would be a fool not to manipulate the system if it is not against the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niepan View Post
    At least as far as I know, ever since 2000, there was such voice.
    It seems to be a waste of time

    Quote Originally Posted by sjoe View Post
    That's why we have to do it. I can understand BWF position.
    Have you found the BWF's position? Maybe we can help you to understand if you don't mind to share with us

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    well,i kinda started this.
    i was to show that TH only do well in fixed tournaments. Fixed means it's not opened to all potential competitors.
    You act as if he's only ever won the three (or whatever) tournaments you mentioned...? He's done perfectly well in other tournaments. Definitely not nearly as well as Lin Dan has, but I don't think that you can say he ONLY does well in "fixed tournaments" (not getting into that).

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwood View Post
    That's the problem I cited above. You read what ms142 wrote, not the article itself.
    Ahhh, well yeah, I couldn't exactly read it myself, so all I had to go on was the English summary posted! Sorry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yen_saw View Post
    I agree with Birdwood about the summary ms142 made, it doesn't give the entire picture of what the article said. I am not going to go detail into that article. Basically, some people may categorize the W/O as strategy to attain better seeding and maximize the number of eligible chinese players, while other people may think this is unsportmanship and unethical. At the end, as long as WBF didn't think it is against the rule and continue to accommodate such behaviour. China will continue to take advantage of it.
    This sounds worse than what ms142 summarised.( Why don't you just post the article here?)
    Question is: Why would CHN, with its seeming domination, need to take advantage? Lack of confidence in its players?

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