Misbun Sidek, a great player?

**george@chongwei** · 01-23-2009, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Flip flop. Congratulations my dear boy! You learn something new today.

its just like u flip flop your decision like u actually had retired from the forum, then u decided to 'join' back again

thats 1 example

**Pemuda** · 01-23-2009, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

its just like u flip flop your decision like u actually had retired from the forum, then u decided to 'join' back again

thats 1 example

Well, to be serious you are the reason why I came back. Hard to resist intellectual comments coming from you and all.

psst ... its called coming out of retirement.

**george@chongwei** · 01-23-2009, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Well, to be serious you are the reason why I came back. Hard to resist intellectual comments coming from you and all.

psst ... its called coming out of retirement.

ok, if you say coming out of retirement, then coming out of retirement lor

anyway, its great to see u come back again as this forum will be toooo boring IF without your great entertainment..

**Pemuda** · 01-23-2009, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

ok, if you say coming out of retirement, then coming out of retirement lor

anyway, its great to see u come back again as this forum will be toooo boring IF without your great entertainment..

Thanks for your intellectual comments.

**ants** · 01-23-2009, 02:26 AM

So do you guys still think Misbun is a great player?

**Dato A** · 01-23-2009, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah

Let's See.

LUAN JIN (CHN)
- All England Champion 1983
- World Championship Winner 1983

YANG YANG (CHN)
- All England Champion 1989
- World Championship 1987, 1989
- Thomas Cup Winner 1986, 1988, 1990

MORTEN FROST
- All England Champion 1982, 1984, 1986, 1987
- All England Runner-up 1985, 1988, 1989
- World Championship 2nd Runner-up 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987

ZHAO JIAN HUA
- All England Champion 1985, 1990
- World Championship Winner 1991
- Thomas Cup Winner 1988, 1990

MISBUN SIDEK
- All England 2nd Runner-up 1986
- World Championship Runner-up 1982, 1988
- Thomas Cup 2nd Runner-up 1988

Let us judge from the statistic above whether MISBUN SIDEK is a GREAT or not.

Originally Posted by ants

So do you guys still think Misbun is a great player?

If Misbun Sidek was a great player at his time. The others, as mentioned above would have be a superb player.

He was a great player. A great player than had never won any major championships at his playing time.

***Oldhand*** · 01-23-2009, 04:45 AM

How about this?
"Misbun Sidek was one of Malaysia's great players"

**Pemuda** · 01-23-2009, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

How about this?
"Misbun Sidek was one of Malaysia's great players"

Dont think so, boss. Kinda hard for me to see Misbun in the company of Eddy Choong, Wong Peng Soon, Tan Aik Huang & gang.

I will settle for; 'Misbun Sidek was a Malaysian badminton champion'.

And boss, on the side note, I would like to make a recommendation on someone for your kind consideration as a potential mod.

***Oldhand*** · 01-23-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Dont think so, boss. Kinda hard for me to see Misbun in the company of Eddy Choong, Wong Peng Soon, Tan Aik Huang & gang.

I will settle for; 'Misbun Sidek was a Malaysian badminton champion'.

And boss, on the side note, I would like to make a recommendation on someone for your kind consideration as a potential mod.

Um, the worthies you mention were Malaysia's greatest players.
In that light, Misbun would be one of Malaysia's great players, wouldn't he?

PS: About the 'side note', let me say my sarcasm well has run dry

**Pemuda** · 01-23-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

Um, the worthies you mention were Malaysia's greatest players.
In that light, Misbun would be one of Malaysia's great players, wouldn't he?

Ok, acceptable.

Originally Posted by Oldhand

PS: About the 'side note', let me say my sarcasm well has run dry

Lol you are killing me, boss

**koo_fan** · 01-26-2009, 02:06 PM

I like u more than ever,Oldhand.

**george@chongwei** · 01-28-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Thanks for your intellectual comments.

NO problem at all, boy. It was my pleasure to help plus it was a simple thing.

***Oldhand*** · 01-28-2009, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by koo_fan

I like u more than ever,Oldhand.

Thanks you but, er, I prefer cash

**fariq** · 01-29-2009, 01:03 AM

i think misbun sidik has been a great player during his time,,but it seems the LUCK is not with him...(may the force be with u),,huhuhuu

**eugene_wong** · 04-04-2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dato A

Let's See.

LUAN JIN (CHN)
- All England Champion 1983
- World Championship Winner 1983

YANG YANG (CHN)
- All England Champion 1989
- World Championship 1987, 1989
- Thomas Cup Winner 1986, 1988, 1990

MORTEN FROST
- All England Champion 1982, 1984, 1986, 1987
- All England Runner-up 1985, 1988, 1989
- World Championship 2nd Runner-up 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987

ZHAO JIAN HUA
- All England Champion 1985, 1990
- World Championship Winner 1991
- Thomas Cup Winner 1988, 1990

MISBUN SIDEK
- All England 2nd Runner-up 1986
- World Championship Runner-up 1982, 1988
- Thomas Cup 2nd Runner-up 1988

Let us judge from the statistic above whether MISBUN SIDEK is a GREAT or not.

I'm 41 and was a great badminton fan since the 80s. If anyone says Pemuda was too young to watch Misbun play then I have every right to comment because i watched him played many times until the end of his career. Even when TV didn't show the match, I never failed to read the sport column to see tournament results.

>MISBUN SIDEK
>- World Championship Runner-up 1982, 1988

hahaha! World Championship was not even held in 82 or 88. How then Misbun be runner-up??? This is a big laugh!

The world championship was held in 1977, 1980, 1983 and since then every two years.
Misbun's best world championship achievement was 1983 where he reached the semis. All subsequent world championship he did poorly and never failed to disappoint me. In fact, I don't recall any other tournament did he make me proud. Even in his so-called official blog that he was 1986 Malaysian Open champion was untrue! The champion was Zhao Jian Hua. I followed the tournament very closely while I was in form 3. Zhao was unseeded in that tourney but he gunned down Icuk, Foo Kok Keong and ultimately Misbun.

As for
>- Thomas Cup 2nd Runner-up 1988
Well, Misbun didn't contribute much in Thomas cup 88. Much of the contribution for reaching the final was from Rashid, Razif-Jalani and Cheah Soon Kit/Ong beng teong. Misbun lost in encounter with Indonesia and China. I still remember in the final against Yang Yang, Misbun lost 15-2 15-2.

The commentator may say Misbun was great player himself but facts are stronger than words.

Now the question of whether Misbun was a great player. Could a great player never won any major title? You judge for yourself....

**eugene_wong** · 04-04-2012, 09:25 AM

>All subsequent world championship he did poorly and never failed to disappoint me.
I think he didn't play in 1985 world championship but he did in 1987 and lost in second round.

**OneToughBirdie** · 04-04-2012, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by eugene_wong

>All subsequent world championship he did poorly and never failed to disappoint me.
I think he didn't play in 1985 world championship but he did in 1987 and lost in second round.

Eugene Boy, welcome to this forum...you la 41, I am much older

I too followed MAS badminton, riding my bike (paddle by muscle power type, not petroleum powered type lah) to see in SBA and Stadium Negara in the good old days, I watch at court level in SBA halls seeing the players play that I can smell the sweat from their armpits

until 1978 when I went overseas and quit playing and quit watching baddy, so I miss MS career...as for MS facts being distorted, twisted and untrue, take it easy lah, we malaysians and ex-malaysians are desperately looking for heroes, after seeing these CHN chaps spank the heck out of us, so a few exaggerations here and there no big deal, must feel good lah....malaysia boleh