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    Fact is he is a ******** player who invented a lot of creative strokes, those however didnt really help him establish a solid position in the world stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene_wong View Post
    I'm 41 and was a great badminton fan since the 80s. If anyone says Pemuda was too young to watch Misbun play then I have every right to comment because i watched him played many times until the end of his career. Even when TV didn't show the match, I never failed to read the sport column to see tournament results.

    >MISBUN SIDEK
    >- World Championship Runner-up 1982, 1988

    hahaha! World Championship was not even held in 82 or 88. How then Misbun be runner-up??? This is a big laugh!

    The world championship was held in 1977, 1980, 1983 and since then every two years.
    Misbun's best world championship achievement was 1983 where he reached the semis. All subsequent world championship he did poorly and never failed to disappoint me. In fact, I don't recall any other tournament did he make me proud. Even in his so-called official blog that he was 1986 Malaysian Open champion was untrue! The champion was Zhao Jian Hua. I followed the tournament very closely while I was in form 3. Zhao was unseeded in that tourney but he gunned down Icuk, Foo Kok Keong and ultimately Misbun.

    As for
    >- Thomas Cup 2nd Runner-up 1988
    Well, Misbun didn't contribute much in Thomas cup 88. Much of the contribution for reaching the final was from Rashid, Razif-Jalani and Cheah Soon Kit/Ong beng teong. Misbun lost in encounter with Indonesia and China. I still remember in the final against Yang Yang, Misbun lost 15-2 15-2.

    The commentator may say Misbun was great player himself but facts are stronger than words.

    Now the question of whether Misbun was a great player. Could a great player never won any major title? You judge for yourself....
    Brilliantly enlightening!!

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    "Great" could mean "respectful" as well, not always referring to the best. In that respect, I think Misbun Sidek was a great player himself back in the 80s. If I were the commentator I would called out others like Zhao Jian Hua, Han Jian, Morten Frost as great players as well.

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    I do admit Misbun was talented. However, I read lots of stories about people in sports even outside badminton. You can become good merely on talent with little work but you will never achieve greatness! I have to conclude that talent have to go hand in hand with hard work to produce greatness - no exception.

    I read about Misbun relying on his talent without wanting to constantly work hard. I think that was his mistake. Besides, I believe he wasn't mentally strong, a hallmark necessary for a great player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chibe_K View Post
    "Great" could mean "respectful" as well, not always referring to the best. In that respect, I think Misbun Sidek was a great player himself back in the 80s. If I were the commentator I would called out others like Zhao Jian Hua, Han Jian, Morten Frost as great players as well.
    Zhao, Han Jian and Frost was a class on their own and I don't recall Misbun beat any of them in their prime. The last time Misbun beat any of them was the match with Han Jian in Thomas cup 86 but he wasn't in his prime already and retired after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene_wong View Post
    Zhao, Han Jian and Frost was a class on their own and I don't recall Misbun beat any of them in their prime. The last time Misbun beat any of them was the match with Han Jian in Thomas cup 86 but he wasn't in his prime already and retired after that.
    Misbun beat Frost in straight sets in 1982 when the latter was the All England Champ and came close again in the GP semi finals 1983. Beat Han Jian in 1985 semi-finals Malaysian Masters, han Jian went on to win the WC that year. Beat Liem Swee King in 1979 Sea Games that caused a shock as no Malaysian single player has beaten a top Indonesian single (All England Champion) for almost a decade. Beat Icuk the world Champ in 1983 GP finals. He has also beaten Luan Jin before.

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    "What an enigmatic player!" Erland Kops said of Misbun in 1988.

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    To this day... We are a nation of unrealized potentials

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    The sidek brothers invented the deadly "s" serve that was very difficult to reply that lead IBF to ban it at those time. However, Datuk Misbun has another deadly weapon that was feared most and become one of his talk about trademark shot which is his ATH cross court drop shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooting stroke View Post
    The sidek brothers invented the deadly "s" serve that was very difficult to reply that lead IBF to ban it at those time. However, Datuk Misbun has another deadly weapon that was feared most and become one of his talk about trademark shot which is his ATH cross court drop shot
    Shooting Stroke he also had a very good backhand baseline to baseline, diagonal backhand to diagonal backhand and a backhand smash fore court and cross court. His problem is stamina. let watch this video btw Misbun and Morten in an energy sapping 3 setter. The best set is the 3rd set where Misbun chased from 13 -9 down.

    Ehhhhhh the S service was not invented by Misbun. The 1st time it was seen was by Thing Hien Hiouw aka the Thing but the Sidek brothers perfected the technique.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A19XSFG4oh8

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    He also beat Icuk the World Champion in QF of the same tournament. We still marvelled at the way these two play, both players attack, defend , diagonal backhand clears, chops , counter attack. But no Jump Smash.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZGpnXzy5c

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