# Thread: Why +2lbs On The Cross?

1. Regular Member
Join Date
Oct 2004
Location
USA
Posts
4,632
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
4 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by dreamzboy
If a customer asks, "I want 25lbs."

Do you string 22.5 x 25lbs or 25 x 27.5?
I will ask do you mean 22.5x25lb or 23.75x26.25lb. If he/she is nor sure, I will string at 22.5x25lb

2. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2002
Location
Richmond, BC
Posts
5,209
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
1 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by dreamzboy
If a customer asks, "I want 25lbs."

Do you string 22.5 x 25lbs or 25 x 27.5?
It would be stringed as 24 x 26 if the customer asks for 25lbs. Unless the customer specified 25 overall (25 x 25).

3. Regular Member
Join Date
Jun 2007
Location
USA
Posts
37
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Since most people string the cross at the tension that a customer want, what is the main tension with 10% less?

For an example, a customer wants 23 lbs. What is ?? x 23? It's easy to go from 10% of the main and you'll get a the cross value, such as 23 x 25.3, but the result will be too tight.

Here's the formula to figure out the main tension with 10% less. Someone might have already came up with it, but I haven't seen it so here it is.

Let y = main (vertical)
Let x = cross (horizontal, value that customer wants)

y = x/1.1

Let's apply it:

Say customer wants 23 lbs, so

y = 23/1.1 will yield the main tension to 20.90 lbs or 21, depending on how accurate you want.

4. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2009
Location
TW, SG, HK
Posts
7,283
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
1 Post(s)
Tagged
do most shops resting with the cross 2lbs more
For example if I were to ask for it restrung @24lbs then what would happen
Would the stringer automatically know to string the cross 2lbs higher

5. Regular Member
Join Date
Jul 2009
Location
Richmond BC
Posts
26
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
so if I wanted to string my raquet to 25lbs? What would be the cross? like 23lbs cross and 25lbs main? pls reply

6. Regular Member
Join Date
Dec 2008
Location
? ?The Moon? ?
Posts
1,087
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by LD rules!
do most shops resting with the cross 2lbs more
For example if I were to ask for it restrung @24lbs then what would happen
Would the stringer automatically know to string the cross 2lbs higher
I think you would have to reuqest it , most stringers near me don't do it. Only after I ask them to do it , they will do it.

7. Regular Member
Join Date
Feb 2007
Location
There
Posts
177
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
If you start to string the cross from the middle (the sixth cross from the bottom), no need to + 2 lbs and the shape of the frame remains un-distorted. This is verified 'cause I've done rough 10 rackets like this so far.

8. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2009
Location
TW, SG, HK
Posts
7,283
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
1 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by krisss
I think you would have to reuqest it , most stringers near me don't do it. Only after I ask them to do it , they will do it.
thanks I will ask them if they do it b4 I hand it in

9. Regular Member
Join Date
Jul 2009
Location
sf bay
Posts
59
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
If a racquet was strung 24x24lb and the frame is a bit rounder than unstrung racquet, will it return to a better shape if it's restrung to +2lb on the cross? or will the frame shape still be like 24x24?

10. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2006
Location
vancouver
Posts
625
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by firearc
If a racquet was strung 24x24lb and the frame is a bit rounder than unstrung racquet, will it return to a better shape if it's restrung to +2lb on the cross? or will the frame shape still be like 24x24?
It certainly do, unless your machine isnt too secure when stringing mains (especially 2pt mount), then it'll be rounded and the 2lbs might not fix it entirely.

11. Regular Member
Join Date
Jan 2005
Location
Newark, CA
Posts
396
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
3 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by Distanc3
It certainly do, unless your machine isnt too secure when stringing mains (especially 2pt mount), then it'll be rounded and the 2lbs might not fix it entirely.
I think if you stretch the frame about 2mm that will help compansate the frame from rounding out and string at a straight tension. I don't think it is necessary to add 10 or 20% as a compansation. We never did it at World Championships or US Opens.

12. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2002
Location
Posts
6,302
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Maybe even (straight) tension is fine for tournament situation where the players will cut the strings right after. However, most recreational players I deal with prefer a more stable string bed that will last two months: hence, 2+ lbs on the cross.

Originally Posted by kakinami
I think if you stretch the frame about 2mm that will help compansate the frame from rounding out and string at a straight tension. I don't think it is necessary to add 10 or 20% as a compansation. We never did it at World Championships or US Opens.

13. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2002
Location
Basement Boiler Room
Posts
22,118
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by kakinami
I think if you stretch the frame about 2mm that will help compansate the frame from rounding out and string at a straight tension. I don't think it is necessary to add 10 or 20% as a compansation. We never did it at World Championships or US Opens.
is this procedure specified in the usrsa manual or in the yonex manual?
Last edited by cooler; 11-22-2009 at 05:28 AM.

14. Regular Member
Join Date
Apr 2002
Location
Basement Boiler Room
Posts
22,118
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by silentheart
My question to you is. How does the racquet play with the new tension? If it work, and feels good, stick with it. Yes, it has been used on tennis racquet for top spin. However, tennis racquet are much thicker and stronger. Badminton racquet might not be able to take the tension that way if the person is not experienced.
it is not common but KDM rackets do get strung like that during his peak career period.

15. Regular Member
Join Date
Jan 2005
Location
Newark, CA
Posts
396
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
3 Post(s)
Tagged

## It's ok to be jelous of the AK.

Originally Posted by cooler
is this procedure specified in the usrsa manual or in the yonex manual?
It's in the AK Manual which is more of a Bible than the USRSA or Yonex Manual. If you ever looked at my bio I was a badminton specialist before a tennis specialist. If you want to refer my expertize please refer to my badminton background before my tennis background. So I would appreciate if you would use Yonex before USRSA. It is only polite. Thanks again for all your praise!! Again I do look foward to meeting you!!

16. Regular Member
Join Date
Sep 2009
Location
home
Posts
278
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
0 Post(s)
Tagged
kakinami,

tennis stringing again sir, pls. can my wilson k88 handle 75 lbs. of tension and playable on paper and in reality? the racquet seems robust enough, i guess...

normally or for always, i string my tennis racquets at 62 lbs. w luxilon alu power (currently using yonex rds001 90, wilson k six-one tour 90 these 2 years mainly). now, about 6 months ago i got wilson k 88 and i progressively strung it higher by 2 lbs., so that i am at 68 lbs. right now.

i fondly remember in the early 90s when i got a wilson hammer 110 oversize racquet and maxed it at 75 lbs. well, it didn't break but i just stopped b'cos i couldn't handle it anymore.

cheers,
MetalOrange

17. Regular Member
Join Date
Jan 2005
Location
Newark, CA
Posts
396
Post Thanks / Like
Mentioned
3 Post(s)
Tagged
Originally Posted by MetalOrange
kakinami,

tennis stringing again sir, pls. can my wilson k88 handle 75 lbs. of tension and playable on paper and in reality? the racquet seems robust enough, i guess...

normally or for always, i string my tennis racquets at 62 lbs. w luxilon alu power (currently using yonex rds001 90, wilson k six-one tour 90 these 2 years mainly). now, about 6 months ago i got wilson k 88 and i progressively strung it higher by 2 lbs., so that i am at 68 lbs. right now.

i fondly remember in the early 90s when i got a wilson hammer 110 oversize racquet and maxed it at 75 lbs. well, it didn't break but i just stopped b'cos i couldn't handle it anymore.

cheers,
MetalOrange
I was stringing for Vince Spadea Prince gut 74 Lbs. 2 years ago, Sampras came to our string team stringing at 80. anything is possiable, as long as the frame looks good.

Page 14 of 22 First 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Last

#### Posting Permissions

• You may not post new threads
• You may not post replies
• You may not post attachments
• You may not edit your posts
•